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Old 03-09-2013, 08:09 PM
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It don;t matter what distributor you put in it. It will still run the best with locked out timing.

You spent a lot of money for nothing. Why do you ask for help when you aren't going to follow it any way?

When you get that all figured out, you can make use of the locked out curve/ start retard function for easier starting when hot.
Make sure rhe GM starter bracket is on your GM starter motor.

There are 4 different levels of start retard you can choose from
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That's one of the reason I bought this distributor plus it has a built in rev limiter

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Old 03-09-2013, 08:27 PM
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Not yet my sister had me doin stuff for her so i didn't get around to locking it out...that's the next step
I thought you said you put the ecurve in. You're just gonna have to take it out again. Plus you could have left the old one in and wouldn't have to reset the timing
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I thought you said you put the ecurve in. You're just gonna have to take it out again. Plus you could have left the old one in and wouldn't have to reset the timing
I got it in and got it to start up but didn't get to get to lock out the timing on it or test drive it...it doesn't have to come back out all I have to do is take the cap off set the dials and drive it
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Old 03-10-2013, 01:57 AM
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It's going to be easier to 'lock out' the mechanical advance on the distributor if you take it out if the engine, IMO. Less back-braking...



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Yea it would be easier to lock out a regular distributor by taking it out...but this isn't a regular distributor all I have to do is take the cap back off and I think set my dials to 1&7
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Old 03-10-2013, 08:13 AM
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I got it in and got it to start up but didn't get to get to lock out the timing on it or test drive it...it doesn't have to come back out all I have to do is take the cap off set the dials and drive it
I'm saying you should have locked out the regular distributor and you could have saved yourself the $400 or so that you spent on the e curve. What's it matter if the e curve or the regulsr dizzy is locked out they will still do the same thing.
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He actually is taking advice!!! The e curve makes it even easier for him to lock out for a test and adjust his curve accordingly to the need of his engine and he isn't running that distributor that isn't even recommended by its manufacturer for his build! The E has a retard for starting , a rev limiter, and a total advance you can lock out with the turn of a pocket screw driver!

The E curve was a good choice !! Running it in lock out mode is just one option with this dist. with the e-curve he can drive it to the track and change the knobs to suite the conditions. No need to carry a timing light unless you want to check the timing when you turn the dials!

Set the distributor in the locked out mode with 10 degree start retard for a test, (And you don't need a dial back to start it)! You can adjust in the right curve you need very easy for the street or the track conditions! And run it locked out if you want.

You made a good choice The built in rev limiter, and start retard, are 2 great features on the E curve, and save you money in the long run!!



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you need higher octane for your compression ratio, brew some your self if not available near you... message me for mixtures and octane rating.
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you need higher octane for your compression ratio, brew some your self if not available near you... message me for mixtures and octane rating.
Feel free to add the info here so everyone can use it.
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you need higher octane for your compression ratio, brew some your self if not available near you... message me for mixtures and octane rating.

Feel free to add the info here so everyone can use it.



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IMHO this is a thread full of good information, however for all the wrong reasons.

4000+ lb car with a lengthy wheel base, the wrong setup for any kind of a good weight transfer, stock suspension, over cammed, not enough stall, not enough gear and the question is why is it lazy . Rather than conclude to find a different chassis combo for the hot motor OR get rid of the cam and compression and use the car for getting groceries in a hurry we beat around the bush and talk about timing?

No offense to the OP but you would be better off taming down the 400 if you want to keep it in that chassis, either that or get a 4500 stall and some 4:88 gears.
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you need higher octane for your compression ratio, brew some your self if not available near you... message me for mixtures and octane rating.
i would like to know the formula as much as anyone else.
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"brew some your self " I'm interested to see this too

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IMHO this is a thread full of good information, however for all the wrong reasons.

4000+ lb car with a lengthy wheel base, the wrong setup for any kind of a good weight transfer, stock suspension, over cammed, not enough stall, not enough gear and the question is why is it lazy . Rather than conclude to find a different chassis combo for the hot motor OR get rid of the cam and compression and use the car for getting groceries in a hurry we beat around the bush and talk about timing?

No offense to the OP but you would be better off taming down the 400 if you want to keep it in that chassis, either that or get a 4500 stall and some 4:88 gears.
why would a lazy engine all of a sudden be not lazy in a different chassis? If the engine is tuned,its tuned,,,
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Old 03-11-2013, 08:11 PM
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Not saying the motor cant be tuned or is not tuned, sure put it on a dyno and tune the snot out of it, till it makes 450HP but then put it in this car with this conv and gear combo,,,and it suddenly is lazy, that is what is happening here

Tuning is done last, you cant tune the lazy out of a 246 duration cam with a 3000 stall, 373 gears in a 4000 lb car can you?

maybe it pulls like hell after 3500 rpm, would not surprise me
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