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'Vette Parts Painting and Static Electricity

I am having a horrible time with static electricity while painting fiberglass parts (no metal to help ground). What can be done? I once saw a show on Musclecar (on Spike TV) that had a solution that you can make up to eliminate - but I could not get it written down. Does anyone know what I can do to eliminate or reduce the problem? Thanks in advance.

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There are a number of guys here who have shot a lot more "glass" than I have and are sure to have some great advice. But one thing that really causes static is blowing it off. The air going over the surface causes static electricity to build up. As well as wiping, that too, you are rubbing the surface just like you did as a kid with a ballon when you rubbed it on your hair and then stuck it to the wall.

Water is what dissipates it. That is one reason why wax and grease removers for plastic are waterborne, or at least it is an added benifit of it being waterborne.


So wiping it down with a waterborne wax and grease remover and not blowing it off so much helps a LOT.

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You do not have to have metal to bleed off a static charge.

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I'm not a painter but I read in an OLD car bodywork book that they draped chains over the rear axle to hit the ground.


static electricity is the least of my worries when I paint
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Static/Fiberglass/Uurrgh. . . .

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You do not have to have metal to bleed off a static charge.

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Hi, so then what else can be done to de-stat fibreglass (without adding water) ? thanks G
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i use my hand. your body will take the charge away. when you first touch it you will feel it i run my hand around edges and such until i no longer feel it. you can also run a ground strap to the floor. between the two i get pretty much rid of it.
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What I do, (this drives everyone crazy)
I tack off the vehicle with a clean cloth sprayed lightly with Endust.
Endust has no wax and leaves no residue.
I've been useing Endust instead of tack rags for over 10 yrs now.
Never had a problem.
It does a better job of tacking the surface off and
it removes all the static.
I have dedicated clean shop rags I use just for this and run them through
the washer when I'm done.
I even tack between coats of base with them.
I'll never go back to sticky tack cloths again.
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Home made recipe is 80% isopropal alcohol + 20% distilled water.

I use Omni MX192 for cleaner on fiberglass. Before final tack I mist coat PPG DX 394, then final tack, the mist coat the DX394 once again.

Any type of ground wire ran to a good earth ground sure wont hurt, unless you trip over it while spraying!

This works for me, although it isn't the cheapest route , but neither is the wasted time and materials when you don't get rid of the static charge.
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well i aint tried it yet but i'm gonna . one thing for sure is jc wouldn't lie to me.
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well i aint tried it yet but i'm gonna . one thing for sure is jc wouldn't lie to me.
I have yet to see JC give anybody untested advice or steer anybody in the wrong direction.

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I use Omni MX192 for cleaner on fiberglass.
Is that PPG's low-static precleaner? I know DuPont markets low-static precleaners specifically for nonmetallic parts.
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well i aint tried it yet but i'm gonna . one thing for sure is jc wouldn't lie to me.
Thanks guys, I would never lie to you, (not intentionally anyway-LOL)

If you knew all the things I've done wrong you might not have that
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Endust:
Propane & Butane <25%
Hydrocarbon Solvent<35% (could be benzene, kerosene,xylene,mineral spirits or any number of other hydrogen and carbon based solvents. imho, mineral spirits is the most likely)
Methyl Chloroform <20%
Paraffinic Oil <25%

data from the Endust msds sheet.

Just wondered what was in it.
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Endust:
Paraffinic Oil <25%

data from the Endust msds sheet.
That name may be deceiving but that doesn't sound good to me.

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JC, I don't doubt you have good luck with it if you've been doing it for so many years. Parafinic oil, Hmmm. Hey isn't that the stuff in DuPont's basecoats? LOL
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