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Old 02-21-2007, 03:23 PM
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I'd like to thank everyone for their insight.

I really don't want to break any laws and it would be nice to have an exempt car. (not that it is emissions laws are strongly enforced in KY) However, I really feel strongly about the car having the proper vin#. I wouldn't ever sell it. I probably wouldn't even drive it that often. I even plan on scaring my son into not selling it from beyond the grave.

I'm actually not sure how anyone would ever know, except you fine people. I mean I'm not talking about just changing the vin plate. The plan was to switch either the entire firewall or the top plate containing the vin tag, defrost vents, windshield wiper mounts... (I'm rambling and probably creating logic to justify what I want to do)

I still haven't had a chance to make any calls yet.

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Old 02-21-2007, 05:08 PM
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I understand you motivation.

If you have both titles it is no big deal to show that the 75 is not stolen, etc. You could also prove this with an abandoned car title search through your sheriff if you don't have the title, and you could get one. They are both 30+ yrs old...

As I suggested you can apply either title VIN to the vehicle if done correctly.

You just want to CYA in case it comes up in the future.

Go for it!

You know if you changed one part at a time, sooner or later the entire car would be different. Like a 32 roadster.. is it or isn't it the original titled car?

If it were a crop dusting airplane, all they do is fly to the overhaul center, swap data plates and logbooks, and fly away in a new airplane with the old numbers on it. Yes it is legal.
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Old 02-22-2007, 05:31 AM
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I guess my basic question would be does this gain any value other than sentimental by switching the vins? Does the 77 have rare options? If it's more common the motivation for fraud is to a degree mitigated.

The honest bodyman, and his client had completely different reasons most likely.

The question is, "Is there an intent to defraud?"

You do have titles for both vehicles right?
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Old 02-22-2007, 07:47 AM
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I have a clean title for the 75.
I do not for the 77 (my sister's car). I did call the DMV to check it out before I pulled it out of the field and they said there was nothing flagged on the vin. I was told that the man who put the car in the field used parts from it for his race car and that he had picked it up from a junk yard.

There is nothing special about either of the cars as far as I know. They are both baseline Camaros. The 77 had a 305 and the 75 has a 350. The 75 is a #s matching car but nothing special.
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Old 02-22-2007, 10:44 AM
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Hmm so you would also have to deal with getting a title on a junked car for the 77. That may not even be possible depending on what the junk yard did. In NY if it was multi-listed (may not be right term. they bulk list all the vehicles on the yard) it can never be titled again. If they separately titled the vehicle it can be sold whole and registered. Looks like that is not case there or they would have had a flag on the VIN.

You will make life more difficult using the vin, and potentially make it less valuable, and possibly subject it to more emissions (don't know difference on 75, and 77).

I'd probably take whatever I can use, and put it in the 75. Keep the 75 titled as one. Make it look like your sister's. Maybe even recover the seats, etc. Then it is a part of BOTH of you not just hers.
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