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Old 12-04-2009, 07:57 AM
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Voodoo Camshaft 60104

I'm running the Voodoo(60104) 276/284 in a 383sbc with 10:1 compression. AFR 195 heads, 750 carb, 1.52 roller rockers, air gap intake, 3:73 gears. My question is the cam suggest a 2800 stall for max performance(IMO no prob). the car will be mostly street driven( but not everyday car), and will see some time at the track. I want to know will 3000 stall big too big or reasonable for street drivability, or should i stick too the 2800 stall. Also what kind of horsepower and torque can I expect? Car is 85 Monte SS

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with a 3k stall you still shouldn't have any lag off the line, so it should be fine, about hp/tq estimations if the motor is tune correctly you can see around 450ish hp and tq numbers
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3000 is not too much, often times the lowest recomended stall is the one they advertise, but you can go higher, it will actaully perform better with a little more stall. Just make sure your cruise RPM is not lower than your stall speed, or get a lock up conv.

I would expect more than 450/450. It all depends on tune but I think you would be hovering around the 500hp mark.
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The recommendation is 2800+ so 3000 will be fine. I would agree with the 400-450hp assessment given the quality of the AFR heads. Your power wont come in until at least 2300-2500 RPM with that duration and (guessing) .5+ lift. If you're running the stock monty vacuum assit power brakes you could run into a problem without a vacuum can assist..
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Awesome!! I'm still looking for a specific answer, which is , Is a 3000 stall drivable on the street? (light to light)
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i have a 9 inch cheapo 299 dollar redneck brand 3500 stall on my 1981 trans am which is very heavy 3600 lbs around im guessing i have a 355 with afr heads and 3 73 gears and a crane energizer 286 cam i like it driving on the street and everywhere, i also have a relatively big tranny cooler though, you will like those heads even with a big cam i still have alot of torque down low, heres a video of my car taking off with my setup and the 3500 stall, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm6fZeXthoM

its in drive so it shifts at 4500 rpms only i gotta fix that and it would burn the tires for literally ever i bet
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Awesome!! I'm still looking for a specific answer, which is , Is a 3000 stall drivable on the street? (light to light)
Short answer is Yes.

It WILL feel strange at first, but you will quickly acclimate to it. Likely you'll say "why didn't I do this sooner!" lol

jarrettandroski- NICE!
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Well to help you out here I have a similar setup like you do. Horse power wise I would guess more around 475 hp and pushing 500 on the torque but my two cents. AFR shows with a comp ratio of 9.5, double pumper 650 carb and a comp xtreme energy cam with 234/242 @ 50 cam it made over 525 horse power or so they showed on a dyno sheet.

I have a 350 with dart 200 cc heads ported and cleaned on exhaust with a double pumper race carb with a lunati voodoo 60112 hydraulic roller cam with 231/239 @ 50 535/550 lift and running a turbo 350 transmission with a 3000/3500 stall range tci converter and I am able to run mine through town just fine. I am running a 3.73 gear ratio in my posi rearend. Have done it for almost 7 years now and no issues. Hope that helps
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Great !!!! Thanks for all the Help. it seems like my mind is made on the 3000 stall. B&M between 3000-3200 seems efficient. Looking forward to spinning the 22' rims from light to light....yeeeeeehaawww!!!
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It is a little strange to get used to a higher stall, but its a lot of fun when you nail it. Once you do get used to it, the stock conv. in other cars will drive you nuts.
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yes you will do just fine, i have an 87 Z28 with a 385cid, solid cam that's 242/250 @.050, adv 282/290 with 1.6 rockers putting it at .556", dart platinum stg II 200cc heads milled to 60cc CB's, 10.4:1 CR, victor intake, 830CFM DP, nasty 700R4 manual W/ 3500-3800 stall, strange 12 bolt with 4.10's. that i would guess is putting out 530+hp and about 500tq. it's not the most street friendly thing as it idles around 1050rpm, but i have learned to love it over the last 3 months, and i'm sure you will love yours too

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FYI, a 3000 stall is just an estimate of where the converter will stall.

Many things will effect the actual stall rpm point.

bigger engines (more torque) will increase the stall rpm
more weight will increase the stall rpm
lower numeric gears will raise the stall rpm

or the opposite.

smaller engines will decrease the stall rpm
less weight will decrease the stall rpm
higher numeric gears will decrease the stall rpm
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The recomended stall for a cam that is shown in the catalogs is the minimum stall required. If max acceleration performance is your goal you will need a converter with much higher stall than this. You would want a converter thats stalls at or near peak engine torque rpm point, when you rug it.
Then get some tires that are capable of putting it to the ground.
One of the biggest mistakes people make is under gearing the car.

A high performance motor wants to rev.

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Make sure, if you don`t have one already, get a heavy duty after market tranny fluid cooler. Higher stall converters mean higher heat and heat is the number 1 killer of automatics.
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I'm running the Voodoo(60104) 276/284 in a 383sbc with 10:1 compression. AFR 195 heads, 750 carb, 1.52 roller rockers, air gap intake, 3:73 gears. My question is the cam suggest a 2800 stall for max performance(IMO no prob). the car will be mostly street driven( but not everyday car), and will see some time at the track. I want to know will 3000 stall big too big or reasonable for street drivability, or should i stick too the 2800 stall. Also what kind of horsepower and torque can I expect? Car is 85 Monte SS
I've got the same cam in a 406 sbc that I run in a jeep.

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