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Old 12-27-2007, 12:05 PM
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warped rotors.

well as any of you MN12 thunderbird owners know the rotors are crap (theyre the same rotors as the 86-98 taurus' & arent exactly made for a 5klbs sports cuope ).. if any one has found a cheap suitable replacement rotor for this problem let me know

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Old 12-28-2007, 09:36 AM
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I just went to our local brake-and-tune-up shop with a Camaro with bad rotors. He showed me the aftermarket rotors they use -- a lot thicker. He told me that most of the OEM rotors he sees have to be replaced after one or two brake jobs, but the HD ones he replaces them with don't come back. Haven't driven them long enough to know for sure he is right, but it makes sense.
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Old 12-28-2007, 10:51 AM
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hmm that does make sense.. u guys have a "just brakes" near u? ive heard they are good with replacin them with the aftermarket stuff but as i stated in other posts... walgreens budget lol
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Most of the brake horror stories all revolve around the "quicky brake" shops. We had a local news story about a few "un-named" shops and the total BS they shoveled on people to get them to pay for the $1000 brake job, using sub-standard parts. Personally, I would not trust anything those places told me.

"thicker rotors"??? Hmm, how is that possible? The rotor has to fit inbetween the pads, so they can't be thicker. If they are finned rotors, they can have more surface meat on each side of the fins, BUT, they are still required to be discarded at a min. thickness for two reasons: Heat and piston blowout.

If you need new HP rotors, ck the reputable brake speciality suppliers who sell proven HP parts.

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Old 12-29-2007, 04:23 AM
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...... they can have more surface meat on each side of the fins,

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Exactly. Not a "quickie shop", just a local independent who likes to specialize in brakes because it tends to be repeat business on people's work trucks, go to work cars, etc.

Reputation is everything and I am lucky enough to live in a small town where you can find out anything about anybody either at the supermarket, church, or local bar.
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Many of the "specialist" type places are the "cheapie" places. They specialize because you can get less educated (less pay) help.

From the nationally advertised transmission and muffler shops there are plenty "specialists" who don't have a guy there that knows squat!

And as far as truly "cheap," they rely on that "well known" and national advertising to bring in customers and don't really have to rely on service and true car care to bring them back. And they are SELDOM "cheap." When I was working at a parts store here in town we had one nationally known muffler shop who did brakes call all the time. They returned more parts than ten or twenty other shops combined! The reason is, they would get your car up on the rack and wheels off, maybe even the calipers off to sell the job. They wanted all the parts sitting right there so when they pressure the customer into signing the repair order they jump on it like Hyenas on a carcass (no offense to Hyenas) and start bolting on parts before the poor guy (or gal like your mom or daughters) could change their mind or speak to anyone.
And they replaced EVERYTHING. These BAS TARDS would replace EVERY caliper, rotor, drum, wheel cylinders, hardware kits, EVERYTHING on every job! And the price? HA, they didn't care one bit. I remember telling the guy on the phone a price when the he called to see if we had the parts. This was our standard operating procedure, status and price, informing the customer of everything they needed to know. I learned that I wouldn't do that with this shop because as he told me, he didn't give a crap what it cost, he is going to mark it up 100% no matter what it was!

They sold under pressure, using scare tactics, on unsuspecting non-car people like our moms and daughters.

By the way, a few years ago they bought a chunk of land at one of the busiest intersections in town and built a nice big new shop! They are one of the busiest shops in town! Living off their national advertising and being "well known."

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