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the HF drawers have bearings and two sliders on each side. The drawers close no differently than my blue point box, which is a Snap on box.
Blue point is /was owned by Snap-On is/was not the same quality as the Snap-On line, as was Par-X sockets,ratchets and wrenches. Hence, not the same lifetime warranty as Snap-On. At least, that's how it was when I was a Snap-On man

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Old 10-31-2013, 09:06 PM
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My father in his SnapOn truck around 1950.





Check out how little tools he had.

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Great thread. Brian, love those old pictures. My .02 on HF. If you have to worry about being seriously injured if the tool fails, I don't buy it from HF. Like someone else said, their shop supplies, like gloves, etc are what I usually go for. Have also had good luck with their knock off paint guns. My $15 purple HF gun sprays much nicer than my $$$ name brand gun. I also like to buy stuff that I know I'm going to intentionally destroy to make a custom tool. For example, I needed a 7/8 open end with a very short handle. bought an inexpensive HF, and cut it to size.
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I'm not worried about the lock and wouldn't think a DIYer would either. This is all opinion anyways, nothing to argue about. If I want to impress people I do it with my work, not my tools. I'd say about 85% of my tools are high quality but my work will not suffer if I use an occasional HF tool. It's good to warn people of HF tools but let's not forget to remind of them of the cool little things you can get there that are a steal.

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Blue point is /was owned by Snap-On is/was not the same quality as the Snap-On line, as was Par-X sockets,ratchets and wrenches. Hence, not the same lifetime warranty as Snap-On. At least, that's how it was when I was a Snap-On man
so what. It closes good, holds lots of weight, and I love it enough to not care if it gets scratched...sounds like my kind of tool box.
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here I am telling people it's ok to buy HF but just today I have horror fright story. Our boss is notorious around here for getting HF. We grumble amongst ourselves about but he's a good guy. The only one that pisses me off is the couplers(GRRR!!!) For the most part we buy wisely from there but he decided to get a spring compressor and the first spring we tried to compress to swap struts, the thing failed horribly. Again, this would NOT be a HF purchase I would ever consider to make. little cheap magnets, spring loaded punch, or those dentist pick tools are a cool steal but air tools, compressors, or things that aren't simple and easy are a no no. They'll screw it up if it isn't simple and even things as simple as a screwdriver I wouldn't use cause they'd wear out too fast. Gotta be really wise and yes, HF is the first place to go when you want to canibalize something to make something else.
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Casters, cart wheels, those little furniture dollies, hell yes!


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you will not find casters for cheaper than that. Even if they are cheap buying casters for something is usually an upgrade over the existing casters. The plastic mallets are good too. Lot of deals on decent stuff but most of it is junk. Love my toolbox though. One purchase I'm glad I made.
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Martinsr, I thought it was funny as hell when you said the hammer broke closing a can! Isn't that why they make 8 lb. sledge hammers?
One thing that surprises me is why people will buy a cheap tool when the good one is still not expensive. Suppose we are talking a $10 tool and you can get a cheapie for $2.99 for example. Really, what's an extra few $ for something like that? And you know that the $10 tool will likely last your lifetime.
I've been a carpenter since Noah built the Ark...in fact I built the damn Ark and he was my helper...he just had better PR.
I have both very expensive and moderately priced carpentry tools, but absolutely NO cheap junk. As you say, you might as well stand there and tear $20 bills to shreds as buy the real garbage. Those tools simply do not work.
Now on the other hand if you are talking a $1,000 tool vs. a $400 tool to do the same job - and I'm talking home DIY stuff here - I would have to look long and hard before spending a G note.
Many of the tools have come way down in price over the years. I remember spending $150 for a CP 1/2" impact gun in the early '70's, a hell of a lot of money then. Great tool...yes. But look what the home guy can get a half decent gun for today. Peanuts by comparison.
As for that gas hose, I'd be letting HF know ALL about that.
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There is a lot to think about, you are right there. These days the moderate prices tools are a huge gray area, there are WAY more than there use to be covering a larger part of the market and they are just fine for the home hobbyist. Picking out that tool is the hard part.

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As said above, most of my tools are pretty good though my metric wrenches, most of which are S-K, needed some help in a couple sizes while doing some work on my truck. I went to Home Depot and picked up a 19, 20 and 22mm combination wrenches. Made in ---- well not USA. Those are Husky wrenches, not bad, but not great and only about five or so bucks each with a lifetime warranty. They ARE clunky. How often will I use them - well based on any past needs, not often. That's my usual criteria for buying lesser quality tools. I tiled a bathroom a while back. Most of it was done with a mega sized/expensive store freebie loaner tile saw. The rest with a $90 DIY'er saw -- which after replacing the blade, works just fine for an occasional home project. Then there is that one time use tool - as long as it lasts to get me through a job, it has paid for itself. Would I like to hire someone to do those one time jobs - sure, but the usual wait for the "craftsman" in my area to show up is often ridiculous (if he shows up at all).
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for car-o-liner frame equipment you need a 27 mm wrench, and you do it by hand. I just went to harbor freight and got a set for like $10. Why spend more? It has worked fine for how often I use it. Would I go get HF ratchets or sockets I would use on a daily basis??? Not on your life. I think it has its place just like quality tools. If you're gonna make a tuck shrinker you gonna go to snap on to canibalize the pieces? No, you're gonna go walk thru HF looking for things that can be cut up for the job.
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There is a lot to think about, you are right there. These days the moderate prices tools are a huge gray area, there are WAY more than there use to be covering a larger part of the market and they are just fine for the home hobbyist. Picking out that tool is the hard part.

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The way I see it, if you have been a tool junkie all your life it isn't hard to tell the difference between good and mediocre. Just pick up the two at the same time and look at them.
I bought my first tool box - with tools - some 54 years ago. Had to do it on credit at $5 a month when I was under 17! Believe it or not, some of those wrenches and sockets are still with me. Cost me $49 at the time. I was earning the princely sum of $125/month then.
I don't remember where the stuff was made, but it would have been either Canada or the US, most likely the latter. Never heard of Chinese tools way back then.
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To quote Ricky Bobby: "With all due respect" Harbor Freight = Chinese Crap... with a few exceptions. Patronizing them is like spitting on your fellow American blue color workers.

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I didn't make the rules up. Go tell that to politicians who worked out trade deals so corporations could take advantage of cheap labor. If that didn't happen you'd actually see stuff still made in The USA. I AM BLUECOLLAR.
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