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Old 11-19-2013, 08:33 PM
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yeah I know. It's just a joke.

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Seems that the correct term should be "the Bloated 3"
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hahaha


or maybe, "the clueless 3".
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I took your advice, Martin. I was planning on getting a wheel and planish hammer but instead got some ratchets for work. today on the first time using it i had to squeeze in a small space and I thought, "man, this would be hell with those old craftsman ratchets!" I knew by getting the premium ratchets, which aren't the best, they'd be good enough for me being that I went so many years using cheap ratchets. So now I gotta lay low and find my next opportunity to spend my own money. I might have to find my credit card to get the wheel and hammer and she'll never know.
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Old 12-02-2013, 11:50 PM
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It pays off big time. Glad to hear it.

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I don't know how you can call something "the big 3" without Toyota or Honda in the mix. They are just simply more reliable, better designed, and have the track records of producing better cars that last. Just look on the road. You see lots of old Hondas and Toyotas. You see an old Ford Taurus and it's puting down the street. Chrysler is one of the worst. Do you see any old Chryslers on the road that aren't minivans? They're all junked.
that's funny right there, every import here are rotted to the point of being unsafe(rockers,pillars,rails) and are trailed by a light blue smoke..
where are all the late 70's 80's early 90's imports.. not on the road.. they all suck.. the import trucks the beds rotted off them in 2-3 years.. who cares if that Toyota 4 ran for another 15 years, can't use the truck as a truck with a bed flap'n in the breeze..
here is a question that all those that say the imports are and have been better than the big three.. WHY ALL THE DEALERS HAVE A HUGE SERVICE DEPT AND PARTS DEPT if they never break down.. ? surely it's not a huge jiffy lube..
Toyota is also full of it with the longest lasting/ 90% of x model still on the road crap.. I guess buying titles of cars in the junkyards is the same as on the road..
the problem is, American auto makers don't get to test out their junk for years then after they got it right sell it here.. every Toyota sold here was sold in japan and other countries years before it saw the light of day here.. the style body changed but the drivetrain and underpinning didn't.. where are all those mini trucks that where huge in the 90's.
every car maker has their duds.. the imports are no better than the big three.. never have been.. I've had both, the 80'90 imports rattled as bad as the g.m./ford/mopar.. they both lasted the same miles before needing wear parts, it's all about upkeep.. if you do none, it don't matter nothing will last..
again why the huge service dept if they are like a timex(might be before your time)
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Old 12-03-2013, 09:00 AM
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I only have to read a few sentences to say, they have caught up and are far better cars than American cars. Just stating the obvious here. I love America but the truth is the truth.
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I only have to read a few sentences to say, they have caught up and are far better cars than American cars. Just stating the obvious here. I love America but the truth is the truth.
think you might want to hang with some Toyota/Honda techs.. they are not better..
tell ya what, go change the trans fluid filter on a Honda..
oh that's right you have to drop the trans and split the case to change it.. at that point you might as well rebuild it..
but most believe c/reports and jdpowers, both payed off by those they award
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Old 12-03-2013, 09:29 AM
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I have learned the same thing, they aren't as good as they are made out to be. The one thing that has made a big difference is how they handle the problems, they take care of them RIGHT NOW! I had a friend who was working at a Honda dealer and the stuff he told me would blow you away. Things like changing carpet and seats that "wore too fast" were common. What is the buying public going to say about a car that the dealer gave them new carpet and seats when they complained? They are going to get HIGH MARKS in the market aren't they? I have a guy I am working with right now that worked at a Toyota dealer, the Seinnas had all kinds of problems with the doors falling apart, check straps breaking welds in the doors, the sliding doors falling down, how about the front control arms bushings, they wear out to nothing LONG before 100K miles. And you have to lift the engine to change the right hand side one.

They have just as many problems, they just handle them different is all.

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it all comes down to maintenance. Hondas don't bother the owner with constant run-ins with an auto shop. I think customers are right and YOU are wrong.
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it all comes down to maintenance. Hondas don't bother the owner with constant run-ins with an auto shop. I think customers are right and YOU are wrong.
talk to me when a Honda has 460k+ on it and you own it..
my 89 grand mark 460k+
my 88 f150 550k+
my 04 z71 345k when traded it in.
82 s-10 600k
99 grand mark 400k at last check(mother drives it now)
92 f150 296k when we traded it for the 04 sport trac.
neighbor steve rav 4 been in shop for I think now 3 weeks
his wifes camery, I've had to get running long enough so they could get it to the end of driveway to get it towed to dealer 4 times now.. it's bran spanking new, sister has a vw it's been a wiring nightmare since day one. we've had to pick up wifes neice a few times because her 15000 mile Honda civic '12 just quits at random..
yup. they are great
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Hi All,I JUST bought a MILWAUKEE --4 inch grinder from Home Depot,$59.00 with a 5 YEAR WARRANTY...this is a STEAL....
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talk to me when a Honda has 460k+ on it and you own it..
my 89 grand mark 460k+
my 88 f150 550k+
my 04 z71 345k when traded it in.
82 s-10 600k
99 grand mark 400k at last check(mother drives it now)
92 f150 296k when we traded it for the 04 sport trac.
neighbor steve rav 4 been in shop for I think now 3 weeks
his wifes camery, I've had to get running long enough so they could get it to the end of driveway to get it towed to dealer 4 times now.. it's bran spanking new, sister has a vw it's been a wiring nightmare since day one. we've had to pick up wifes neice a few times because her 15000 mile Honda civic '12 just quits at random..
yup. they are great
I'm not trying to argue, I'm just saying most people who want reliability stay far away from American cars. This is the general consensus amongst Americans. Go take up that argument with them.
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talk to me when a Honda has 460k+ on it and you own it..
my 89 grand mark 460k+
my 88 f150 550k+
my 04 z71 345k when traded it in.
82 s-10 600k
99 grand mark 400k at last check(mother drives it now)
92 f150 296k when we traded it for the 04 sport trac.
wow, those are some class 5 mileage claims, 2.6 million miles on 6 vehicles

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I was thinking the same thing, my God, do these cars ever get parked? They would have to be running 24 hours a day!

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