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Old 04-28-2011, 04:16 PM
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Water ruined my pump?

Long story short, i moved to Florida, left my car behind in Ohio and i think water got in the transmission.

1982 Monte Carlo with a rebuilt 305 and remanufactured TH350 transmission that i purchased from Auto Zone when i worked there.

Car ran great, shifts were strong and smooth, tranny would kick down appropriately, no problems at all. I had the car transported to Florida. In the process it seemed to me that enough tranny fluid leaked out to keep it from going into gear to get it on the transporter. Added 2 quarts and it went into every gear to get on the truck.

I tried to drive it around the block here and i noticed that it would not shift out of first. Engine revs high, but no shift. I pulled the dipstick to check the fluid level and find that it is PINK! And by PINK! i mean it looks like Pepto Bismol.

I dropped the pan and found white sludge and more pink fluid. Cleaned everything, replaced the filter and added more fluid, drove it around the block and i still have the same problem.

Today i decided to disconnect the out line on the tranny to pump out fluid while adding new fluid through the filler tube. Obviously more pink fluid came out but i noticed that the flow of fluid seemed sporadic and weak. I was expecting the pump to really force the fluid out, much like a garden house. Sounds gross, but it looked like my transmission had prostrate troubles.

Anyway, i'm thinking the pump is messed up from the water and that the torque converter should be replaced as well.

Should i consider something else, get a new tranny or consider rebuilding this one?

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You need to rebuild the trans. If for no other reason, the clutch plate glue is water soluble.
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i would try to locate the problem and where the water came from. Perhaps a bad radiator trans oil cooler?
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Thanks so far!

I had no idea that the plate glue was water soluble... that will definitely lead to issues.

When rebuilt the engine and replaced the trans i used a separate trans oil cooler. So no antifreeze is getting to the trans oil.

I believe the water came from snow/rain sitting on the car over the years. Yes, i'm a terrible car owner. I didn't cover it before i left for Florida.
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make sure when you hook the cooler back up you put it is series with the stock trans cooler.

aftermarket coolers are designed to work with the stock cooler and wont bring the temp down enough on its own.


sorry about the water in there thats a shame.
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Thanks, but it's my own fault...

I'm just curious about the pump. I was expecting transmission fluid to come pouring out like a garden hose. It spat and sputtered more than anything.

I'm wondering that if/when i rebuild the transmission if i should replace the pump.
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Water in/on Clutch and Transmission

The Pink Milkshake.
Water in/on Clutch and Transmission
http://www.raybestospowertrain.com/p...tip_water.html

Cooler leaks:
http://www.sonnax.com/system/pdfs/16...pdf?1289926277
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Worry about the pump after you have the trans out & pulled the pump to take it apart for cleaning & inspection.
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Bummer!!!!!!!! definitly locate where the water came from and then time for a re-build.


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Make sure your driveshaft yoke doesn't have a hole in its backside.
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