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Old 12-09-2012, 05:48 AM
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Waterpump stored 10 years- leaks.

App 8-10 years ago, early in the building process of my hot rod I bought a new water pump. First engine start this autumn showed that the the pump leaks.
I've heard that it's probably because of dry out gaskets.
It's an Allstar Performance aluminum pump. Chevy Small block engine.

What do you suggest? Buy a new pump, or buy a back plate gasket kit and replase this?
Will the axle gasket dry out over this period of time as well?

I'm not able to see if the leak comes from only the back plate gasket, or from the hole below the axle as well.

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No doubt the seals have gone away. If you can get the replacement seals and have a puller and press to remove/replace the impeller or hub, you can rebuild it. Otherwise, it's junk.
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Old 12-09-2012, 07:48 AM
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Just buy a new pump then you can take the old one apart and rebuild at leasure. If the manufacture of the pump still makes them i would try to get them to remanufacture the pump and save it for future build. Tell them it failed on the shelf and they may rebuild it for free or reduced cost. If they do not then buy a pump from edelbrock or another company that will stand behind there product.

The pump should of had grease on it from the factory and that should have suvied a ten year shelf ride. The pump may just be bad and good money after bad is not going to be the way to fix it. Will probably just leak again after a few thousand miles. Best just to pony up the 15 bucks and get a new one. If you want the aluminum one wait for it to be rebuilt and sent back to you.
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Buy a new one and swap the return.

Did I say that out loud?
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Since I live in Norway, swapping pumps is not an option due to high shipping costs.

What aluminum pump do you recommend, then?
3/4" Corvette pilot diameter?
Standard volume or high volum?

The engine sits in a '34 Ford roadster. It has an electric fan, no power steering, no AC. 6 speed manual trans.

I'm considering a Weiand Action plus aluminum pump. Other/better alternatives?
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Since I live in Norway, swapping pumps is not an option due to high shipping costs.

What aluminum pump do you recommend, then?
3/4" Corvette pilot diameter?
Standard volume or high volum?

The engine sits in a '34 Ford roadster. It has an electric fan, no power steering, no AC. 6 speed manual trans.

I'm considering a Weiand Action plus aluminum pump. Other/better alternatives?
Yep thats an issue. Do you have a local edelbrock reseller? They sell a nice alum pump that is cheap. If they have local shop tell them to add it to there next order if that can save on shipping. I would get the standard volume pump. Car should not be over heating with normal volume pump.

Do you have a gm dealer close. You can just buy a stock pump it will cost a few bucks but atleast you got a reliable pump and they probably have one on the shelf right now.
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I have a Stewart water pumps on my SB Ford - and it sat for 9 years without a leak at first startup in 2009 or since. Not cheap, but some are widely used in NASCAR so do have a reputation for reliability: Stage 1: Stewart Components, Inc.

My second choice would have been the Edelbrock

Tough being on the 'wrong' side of the Atlantic for common performance parts

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Norway is not in the EEC, if you were using the Euro it would´nt be so bad.

1 USD = 0.775981 EUR 1 EUR = 1.28869 USD

1 USD = 5.69346 NOK 1 NOK = 0.175640 USD
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I'm about to place an order from Summit Racing anyway, so a pump from them would't add much to the shipping cost.
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my guess is the shaft seal will be standard sbc for that sized shaft..
shipping for that seal should not be all that bad .
if it's not the back cover gasket.. get the shaft seal and pull it apart. you got nothing to loose, other than a dollar or two for a new seal and some of your time..

can't imagine them reinventing the wheel when they made that pump..
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Waterpump stored 10 years- leaks.

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I'm about to place an order from Summit Racing anyway, so a pump from them would't add much to the shipping cost.
I have the Weiand Action Plus on my big block chevy. I have no compliants. I bought mine from Summit Racing too.
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I'm about to place an order from Summit Racing anyway, so a pump from them would't add much to the shipping cost.
Jegs is cheaper here inthe states also have better sales reps in my past calls to both. But who knows about overseas shipping i am assuming taxes/duty is an issues as well.

In us you can buy stock cast replacement for 17 bucks. Do you have local parts house these pumps were used on alot of engines. Also sometimes you just got to paint it black and bolt it on. If its a show piece then that will not work. Edelbrock is nice if you need jewlery on the exposed engine. Chrome and satin model is good looking pump. So may be able to save a little just getting the satin finish on the edelbrock.
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Jegs is way more expensive for us in Europe on shipping, last time I looked only FedEx.
Summit offers more options on shipping, the "i parcel" option is
great, taxes are paid, delivered to your door no hassle.
Here USPS is good until it hits Spanish customs, takes as long to
clear customs as it did to cross the Atlantic, plus the paperwork you have to do is a pain.
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In Scandinavia (Norway, Sweden Finland, Denmark) we have a company called JetCarrier.
They offer a free "mailbox" in their storehouse in NJ where they collect my stuff, ship it to Norway, take care of the customs and paperwork, and ship it to me from the Norwegian custom port.
All this in a very short time, 100% legal and to a very reasonable price.

And the NJ address is manned, so I can order from US stores that don't ship to mailbox addresses.
The only stores I can't order from, are the ones that claims a US credit card account, or simply writes that they don't want to sell to foreigners.

I ended up order a Weiand Action Plus water pump.
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Jegs is way more expensive for us in Europe on shipping, last time I looked only FedEx.
Summit offers more options on shipping, the "i parcel" option is
great, taxes are paid, delivered to your door no hassle.
Here USPS is good until it hits Spanish customs, takes as long to
clear customs as it did to cross the Atlantic, plus the paperwork you have to do is a pain.
That's interesting. I don't know who is cheaper here in the US, Jegs or Summit. But here, either place will match the other's prices. The last thing I bought that I bothered doing a price check between the two was a 4779 Holley, ~ 2 months ago. Summit was ~$1.00 cheaper, so I'd say the price differences are basically a wash and the winner is whoever you like best for reasons other than price.

I don't ask mail order parts houses for tech info, so that's not a selling point either way for me. I do think the Summit online catalog is easier to navigate and has more complete info, and their paper catalog is enough better than Jegs that I will use Summit, if for no other reason. Even though I don't much care for Greg Anderson. lol
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