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i picked up some 7018 rods didnt notice till i got home that the box had Alloy on the label 7018 i m not a professional welder( i can weld but i dont do as a full time job) just went by the number i know 7018 iknow they come in different sizes i think its 5/32 is a hotter rod but this place had rows of rods 6011 6013 etc when i saw the 7018 i just grabbed a box. i have to weld spring hangers on my trailer i hate to drive the 35 miles to this place unless i have to

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The 7018 is a structural rod and should work great for what you want to do.

Most people that don't weld often like to use 6011's because they start easier but won't be as strong a weld. We call 6011's "farmer rods" typically because it can weld through rust and paint better and it's what all the farmers use. It just doesn't have the same strength as a 7018.

An 1/8" or 3/32" rod would work better for lighter material but the 5/32" will do what you need to do.

6013 rods are generally used for a root weld on pipe before the final passes with a 7018 rod.
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i use 7014 a lot. starts nice and very good flow. run at 80 to 90 amps.. i'm not a welder either but can do it.. more/less
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the best 7018 on the market right now is the Lincoln electric Excalibur rod. The reason 7018 is so widely used is the versatility of it. One rod for all positions. For beginning or not very good welders they'll love the 7014 and 7024, but once you get good and familiar with welding you'll prefer 7018.
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7018 is about all I use. I have used 7014 before also, not as good as 7018 but usable
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Side note: I heard a story about a guy who was applying for a job in a fab shop. The interviewer, who wasn't a welder, asked him what type of rod he like to weld with. After a slight pause he answered " I like to weld with 1109 rod. This sounded a little strange to the interviewer, but he let it slide. After the job hunter had left the interviewer had the shop foreman come to his office to talk about him. He mentioned the 1109 rod at which point the foreman shook his head, WTF! Then he noticed on the shelf above the interviewers head was a box of 6011, upside down. The guy did not get the job
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check out this page http://www.millerwelds.com/resources...alculator.phpe there is also an android app. this doesn't recommend rod but gives a little better definitions when selecting a rod if your unsure
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The 7018 is a structural rod and should work great for what you want to do.

Most people that don't weld often like to use 6011's because they start easier but won't be as strong a weld. We call 6011's "farmer rods" typically because it can weld through rust and paint better and it's what all the farmers use. It just doesn't have the same strength as a 7018.

An 1/8" or 3/32" rod would work better for lighter material but the 5/32" will do what you need to do.

6013 rods are generally used for a root weld on pipe before the final passes with a 7018 rod.
You are right about everything but the 6013 rod. It lays a pretty bead, but works best in a flat position and doesn't fill gaps easily. The best rod for a root weld especially on pipe is 6010. It is an all position rod and has great penetration and cleans easily.
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6011 was designed off from 6010. The sixty eleven rod was designed to be used with a/c machines, that is why it's called a farmer's rod.
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You are right about everything but the 6013 rod. It lays a pretty bead, but works best in a flat position and doesn't fill gaps easily. The best rod for a root weld especially on pipe is 6010. It is an all position rod and has great penetration and cleans easily.
You are correct. I was thinking about that today and remembered I was wrong. It's been a while since I've done any pipe welding. Some of the guys that weld pipe are masters and wonder how they can do it so well. It definitely takes skill to master it.

Some fun reading here on different weld certs and the basics behind each one.

http://www.gowelding.org/Welding_Certification.html
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The 7018 is a Low Hydrogen rod wayne,,6011 is a mild steel rod,, 7018 Is a stronger rod then the 6011 rods..6011 is a easier rod to weld with for some..But the 7018 is a cleaner weld when done..
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i understand that, but these rods must be junk the box says alloy mild carbon steel .i went to lowes and bought some others and they work great, i could not get the others to start. box says 55-120 amps and they would stick and turn red never had that problem before bought them at fazzio's steel yard, same price except they came in a plastic box
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i understand that, but these rods must be junk the box says alloy mild carbon steel .i went to lowes and bought some others and they work great, i could not get the others to start. box says 55-120 amps and they would stick and turn red never had that problem before bought them at fazzio's steel yard, same price except they came in a plastic box
that's why they call it sick welding. lol

if your not an experienced welder seventy eighteen is not the welder for you. Sixty eleven would be better suited and be strong enough for what your doing. What machine are you welding with?
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i understand that, but these rods must be junk the box says alloy mild carbon steel .i went to lowes and bought some others and they work great, i could not get the others to start. box says 55-120 amps and they would stick and turn red never had that problem before bought them at fazzio's steel yard, same price except they came in a plastic box
They sound wet..
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Yea. You get a little moisture into them, and they will stick bad. Stick them in an oven. I had almost 5 pounds of Hobart 7018's get damp just from sitting in a plastic welding rod box ( rods shipped in it ) that did not seal all the way.. Few mins in the garage oven and they were back working again
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