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Old 09-24-2005, 04:36 AM
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Even me old red you have to go Vise grip if you don't you'll try to clamp something the damn lever will fall out of the back and and then you'll have to use two hands to put it back together, your piece will have moved and then you get to start the whole cycle over. Come over you can barrow a couple of mine but if you don't bring them back......... I'll sick red on ya.

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Agreed that the real Vise-grip welding clamps are worth buying. I've bought offbrands a couple times and regretted it.
I use mine for mostly structural welding- 1/4" thick and up and have found that the most usefull size is 11", followed closely by the 6". Never used the 9" so don't know about those. The 18 and 24" aren't great tools, even the real ones are springy and tend to twist, but when you need the reach, there's just no substitute for them. I have a couple 24", about 20 of the 11" and 6 of the 6", all regular tip. The swivel tips are pretty useless, IMHO, and just a gizmo to extract more wampum from the wallet.
If you've got the time to look and aren't using them a lot, C-clamps might work for you. They're not nearly as fast to use as Visegrips, but are way cheaper, especially used.
There's no such thing as owning too many clamps!

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Old 09-24-2005, 12:33 PM
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unless they are nipple clamps ....I mean really how many pairs of those can one person need? c-clamps work too and you don't have to be as brand picky.
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Yeah, I guess 2 of those would be enough, unless you were into cows...
A simple 4 sided angle iron frame clamped to a welding table needs 8 ViseGrips just to weld the corners. Something like a three shelved tool cart can use more than 30. I'm working on a roll cage for a Jeep right now that's using at least 20 (I haven't counted).... I'd like to own more of the 11" but ain't gonna pay retail.
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The little pads are good for sheet metal work. More is better, the less your parts move around the better.
I welded in a dust control shop for 6 years and we welded everything from 16 gage to 3/8 steel.
A 30 foot seam on a 16 gage dust hood would move all over the place if you didn't get enough clamps on it.
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Wow,

Thanks for all the replies. I happened to see some non Irwin vice grips at a tool sale this weekend. I tried them out, and I couldn't even get them to lock with nothing in the jaws.

I think Irwin will definately be the route I'm going to take. I'll just have to take away the kid's lunch money for a while....
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