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you dont have to worry about it. I have been using DAP HHR for many years with many different materials PVC included with no problems. Im sure Dan will agree. Regular backer board, even the so called waterproof will warp. I ordered some for a non automotive project and it was delivered warped.

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You don't have to do that. It does not damage PVC foamboard.
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Ok so assuming I can find an auto upholstery shop who will sell me the DAP adhesive, how much do I need? Counting headliner glued to foam and foam glued to board, doors, kickpanels and the sides and rear of the cab I have about 25 square feet. If I use it as a brush/roller on, will a quart be sufficient?

I fi am "gluing" the vinyl to ABS/PVC for the sides and back, is it glued only where it's folded over the back, or am I gluing the entire surface of the backing before applying the vinyl? Thanks
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O.K., I am at a loss to understand why any of you can't spend $30.00 to buy a gallon of the best glue on the planet. If you use half of it, all of it, or none of it and throw the rest away are you still not in the same place financially? If you can find an upholstery shop that will sell you less than a gallon for $30, and you need more to complete your project, where are you at? If this was a question of spending $5 more to make your paint job, transmission, engine, or whatever there is to spend on your project of a lifetime, would you spend the $5.00 or not? This, my friends, is the definition of a no brainer.


Why is the interior of your car, where you will spend 100% of your time when the car is finished, the least important thing you spend your money on?

If I had a nickle for every $10,000 paint job on a car with a $500 interior that I have seen, I would be one rich sum*****.
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I fi am "gluing" the vinyl to ABS/PVC for the sides and back, is it glued only where it's folded over the back, or am I gluing the entire surface of the backing before applying the vinyl? Thanks
You'd want to glue the entire surface of both the vinyl and the whatever you're gluing it to, along with the back,
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O.K., I am at a loss to understand why any of you can't spend $30.00 to buy a gallon of the best glue on the planet. If you use half of it, all of it, or none of it and throw the rest away are you still not in the same place financially? If you can find an upholstery shop that will sell you less than a gallon for $30, and you need more to complete your project, where are you at? If this was a question of spending $5 more to make your paint job, transmission, engine, or whatever there is to spend on your project of a lifetime, would you spend the $5.00 or not? This, my friends, is the definition of a no brainer.


Why is the interior of your car, where you will spend 100% of your time when the car is finished, the least important thing you spend your money on?

If I had a nickle for every $10,000 paint job on a car with a $500 interior that I have seen, I would be one rich sum*****.
Ok, I see your point. FWIW, we're talking more like $50 with shipping. There's a part of me that really hates the waste, but maybe that's what I need to do. It would be helpful to know how much I'd need, but maybe that's an "it depends" question.
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I'm saying a gallon, because that's the smallest container I have ever seen it come in. Let's put it this way, if you were spraying it, maybe two fillings of the spray gun's cup. It might take more if you brush it. Why not find an upholstery shop and have them order you a gallon? That should save you some money.
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O.K., I am at a loss to understand why any of you can't spend $30.00 to buy a gallon of the best glue on the planet

Don't forget Dan, there are some of us out here that don't have access to the products you recommend. The only place I have found to buy any kind of trim glue is Ebay, and only after I asked why the Ebay store didn't have it listed. He listed it for me but the price came to about $90 gallon for a brand that nobody's ever heard of. I did get some from an upholstery shop, but never thought of asking him to order me a gallon. I will do that next time.

Also please remember, some of us are trying to do these projects on extremely limited budgets.

I want to thank you Dan for the help you've given me by answering questions on this board. Made me want to try things I've never done before. I hope you continue because there's always a need for expertise such as yours.

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yourautotrim.com has the glue for $29.95 a gal. plus shipping. They also carry a descent selection of supplies at good prices.
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O.K., I am at a loss to understand why any of you can't spend $30.00 to buy a gallon of the best glue on the planet

Don't forget Dan, there are some of us out here that don't have access to the products you recommend. The only place I have found to buy any kind of trim glue is Ebay, and only after I asked why the Ebay store didn't have it listed. He listed it for me but the price came to about $90 gallon for a brand that nobody's ever heard of. I did get some from an upholstery shop, but never thought of asking him to order me a gallon. I will do that next time.

Also please remember, some of us are trying to do these projects on extremely limited budgets.

I want to thank you Dan for the help you've given me by answering questions on this board. Made me want to try things I've never done before. I hope you continue because there's always a need for expertise such as yours.
This could be a problem. (Not for me, I am in PA) From yourautotrim.com
"THIS ITEM CANNOT BE SHIPPED TO THE FOLLOWING STATES:

California
Delaware
Maryland
New Jersey
Connecticut
Rhode Island "

I've got the $50 and want to do it right. Maybe I'll have to rethink things. Thanks.
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This could be a problem. (Not for me, I am in PA) From yourautotrim.com
"THIS ITEM CANNOT BE SHIPPED TO THE FOLLOWING STATES:

California
Delaware
Maryland
New Jersey
Connecticut
Rhode Island "


Nor will they. ship glue across the border to Canada. This is part of the problem.
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I just read about the new restrictions being placed on adhesives. Here is the article. http://www.thehogring.com/2012/01/29...st-trim-shops/
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There is also k-grip plus available at Rochford supply. A little more expensive but... K-Grip Plus Adhesive Spray, Aerosol, Adhesives & Sprays, HH-66 Vinyl Cement, K-Grip Adhesive Spray from Rochford Supply - Your Online Textile and Upholstery Superstore!
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Hi, I am a new user in this forum and I registered after i read your questions.
I don't know if you already solved your dilemma on the glue to use, but i can tell you that last year i had the same problem as you. I had to do a headliner and i didn't know what glue to use, in the end i went with the 3M.
It is a good glue and it held well in the winter (Wisconsin winters are pretty cold) but as soon as the summer started it didn't even last till the end of june and the liner started dipping.
Read about DAP and thought id give it a try, its been solid for the past year and my car is a daily driver.
Just my 2 cents of knowledge, i got burned with those aerosol glues once, and if the summer over there is anything like here the liner is not going to last if you use aerosol glues.
Good luck
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