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Old 02-02-2004, 01:00 PM
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what is the correct or best order for rebuild

cam bearings, cam, sprocket, main bearings, crank, caps, pistons,
lifters, push rods, heads, manifold, carb, or another order of rebuild?

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Old 02-02-2004, 05:41 PM
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Are you asking in what order to reassemble the motor?


cup plugs
cam bearings
oil galley plugs
camshaft
main bearings
crankshaft
main caps
pistons
sprockets
heads
lifters
push rods
rockers
oil pump
tinware
damper
fuel pump
water pump
manifolds
distributor/sparkplugs
carb



The order could be done in a lot of different ways. But to me after cam bearings have been installed you should blow out oil passages to make sure some little piece of metal didnt get shaved off from cam bearings. Putting cam in before crank is a lot easier. Tightening the bolts for timing gear is easier when pistons are holding crank in place.
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Old 02-02-2004, 09:30 PM
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holy crap, get a rebuild book dude! You cant just slap a post together and tell you the correct way to build a motor! BTW some motors may build slightly different-


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Old 02-02-2004, 10:41 PM
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Ditto what Killerformula said. Excellent books by David Vizard are available at Borders, Amazon.com, etc.

It's not just something that can be done without a lot of planning and getting you hand dirty before you start.

Find a local builder and ask for a few pointers. Sometimes you find a nice guy/girl that's willing to help you with your first build.

Good luck with your engine. There's nothing like hearing something you put together start up and run. Be careful though it's addictive.
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Old 02-03-2004, 10:27 AM
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ok, maybe i better explain.
this is my first engine, and i'm already addicted, so too late for that.
not only have i gotten my hands dirty, but they are cut, bruised and smashed as well, from tearing the engine down..love it!

i just got the block back from the hot tank and had the cam bearings installed..i dont have the tool. my guy also put in the freeze plugs, and other plugs...so i'm ready to go.

i have read the chiltons guide(was dissapointed w/ it) and the "how to rebuild your sbc" which i love!

i like to double check my own thought process just to be safe, which is why i posted this. also, i wasn't sure if i should install the crank before the cam, and if i do the cam 1st, do i also go right into the cam gear(sprocket).
then i figured maybe the lifters once the cam was in...but according to you guys, maybe i should wait.
i could just follow the book, and i am mostly, but iwant to learn it myself.
sorry fi the thread is a waste of time, but for me, it's important for the confirmation..
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Old 02-03-2004, 10:33 AM
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chiltons suck. Go to your local book store or speed shop and find an appropriate guide for your particular motor. A build should most DEFINATELY not be done without one. BTW there are guidelines for tearing down too...

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Old 02-03-2004, 10:54 AM
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thank you for allowing us a post to put you back on our ignore lists auto-part! Still haven't found anything better to do eh?

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killer,
i dont know who you're talking to...but it aint me.

the book by Vizard.."how to rebuild your sbc" is a great book. it's the one i'm using and it was very helpful in teardown.
now that i'm in the rebuild process, i'm using that book and another by scheib.

so, tonight, the rebuild commences w/ the cam,sprocket and the bearings,crank...

do i oil the cam lobes?
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Old 02-03-2004, 12:34 PM
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no, you're right, it wasn't you. Autopartner posted something insulting to you and the rest of us, but it has been since removed by a moderator.

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nice.
what'd it say and what's his problem?
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Old 02-03-2004, 01:07 PM
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just something about paying somebody else to get it done since you obviously can't do it and that you'll go broke doing it and also to go back to sleep or something stupid like that.
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Old 02-03-2004, 01:16 PM
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it's a shame there arte people like that , so bitter and bored with their lives. i think it's a cry for help...but shouldn't he be asking family and friends?

anyway, thx for all the help.

why not put in lifters after cam install?
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Old 02-03-2004, 01:35 PM
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because yuou don't want all the oil to drain out of them, they should go in as late in the build as possible.

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Not to mention that they will fall out when you flip the engine over to button up the bottom end. If you have it on a stand.

Also do'nt use oil on the lobes. Your new cam should have come with a packet or container of breakin past/lube. Use it because it will stick to the lobes and keep them lubricated during break-in. Without it you stand a better chance of wiping a lobe and ruining your cam and possibly the bearings.
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again, i'm just learning here.
it seems to me that the lifters are held in by the cam being under them and also hydraulic pressure of the oil in the chambers.

does oil flow through the chambers, around the lifters, and then to the cam during engine running?

are you saying that the oil i lube them with at installation to prevent damage at start-up, will drain by the time i finish if i install them early?

i dont think they can go in any later than the push rods...

thx for your patience
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