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Old 04-04-2010, 09:01 AM
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what to do for door latches

getting to the point on my hand built rat, I need to think about door latches and hinges.. doors will probably just be 1/2 doors, tho I may make window frames so I can do removable windows.. I'd like to have outside door handles ( so if I have windows, they can be 'up' ).. doors will be constructed of a 1x1x16ga square tubing, and skinned with 18ga.. the only type of door latch I can come up with that I can make work is a T bucket type door latch ( MR. Roadster does list left and right latches ). but those latches do not provide an outside door handle.. any other ideas?

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I have to build doors for my 31 nash roadster, I have looked at garage door latches that are the same style as cars of the 20's - 30's . bear claws are safer, but harder to fit in the narrow space, For hinges I picked up some barrel gate hinges pieces from MetalMart in Lehi, Utah , they were abou $2 each, I plan on frenching the hinges. popular back in to 50's I haven't seen any body doing that today. Now they want hidden hinges.
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You are out of your mind if you don't use a REAL latch. At the very least, one like this.


Available here

They fit in a very thin door (used them in my brothers 1922 Buick Roadster).

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I would like a bear claw type latch, but with the door only 1" wide, I'm not sure how it would work, especially with the outside framework being made of 1x1 tubing

I might be able to cheat and make them 1 1/2" wide, but I don't know as that will provide enough clearence, being the small bearclaw is 1 5/8" wide..

found these http://www.cbsonline.co.uk/mini-bear-claw-latches-pair-bearmini-248-p.asp and they would fit if I went 1 1/2"

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I used these latch on my rat. worked out very nice..(SUICIDE DOOR).. Not like a bear claw.. but works..

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Univer...late,2266.html
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I used these latch on my rat. worked out very nice.. Not like a bear claw.. but works..

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Univer...late,2266.html
those are the latches I was thinking about using.. is there any way to use an outside door handle with them?
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If you mistakenly made the passenger compartment too small for you to sit in, you would make it larger, not cut off your legs!

Two wrongs don't make a right, make the door the proper thickness at the latch to use the RIGHT thing. I wouldn't use anything but a bear claw style latch.

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Matt.. your doing a great job on your first home made rod.. And you Won't get it all right on the first one.. Just do your best in keep it safe.. The latch's I showed you are sold and used ''EVERYDAY'' on cars.. The thing you want to watch with any latch you go with, is to make sure you put them on right.. That's most important....


Here is something you can add to keep it safe too.. I ''only'' had these on my 32 roadster I built..(no other latch)... And drove the car ''everyday''.. and long trip's too.. And Never had a problem.. Just keep it safe..

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Suicid...ches,2269.html


Bear claw latch's are the best, And should be used ''when you can''..
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Matt.. your doing a great job on your first home made rod.. And you Won't get it all right on the first one.. Just do your best in keep it safe.. The latch's I showed you are sold and used ''EVERYDAY'' on cars.. The thing you want to watch with any latch you go with, is to make sure you put them on right.. That's most important....


Here is something you can add to keep it safe too.. I ''only'' had these on my 32 roadster I built..(no other latch)... And drove the car ''everyday''.. and long trip's too.. And Never had a problem.. Just keep it safe..

http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Suicid...ches,2269.html


Bear claw latch's are the best, And should be used ''when you can''..
the latches you first showed were my first thought.. only concerns I had with them was popping open, but with a secondary latch, I wouldn't be worried... I could make the door wide enough to accomodate the bear claw but, it won't work well with the 1" openings.. looks like I'll use the simple MR.Roadster latches and the safety latches
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mine never popped open..
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Looking really good there Matt, i made my doors the same way you did and ran into the same problem. I wasnt to worried about locking in sense i leave my drivers window out all the time so what i did was just made (ill try and explain it the best i can sense i dont have pics at the moment) a knob on the outside that and into a little L on the inside (kinda like how a fire place stays shut i guess) and had it latch and out a pin in it so it cant come open on me. it works well and gets the job done. i also put a little bit of the house door foam in side so that it has pressure pushing out and doesnt rattle like crazy. Best of luck to you man and its looking really good!!! Keep it up
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I have seen where those "cabinet" latches let a door open. I will never forget as a teenager building my truck when a guy up the road with a Model A roadster pickup had doors open as he pulled in the driveway! The twisting of the truck as it went over the sidewalk popped the door open!

I had a friend with a Duece three window have his wife fall out of the car and nearly get ran over (she went under the door and got some SEROUS road rash) at the 1979 NSRA nationals in Merced Ca.

I take door latches as serious as brakes.

Make the door and jamb proper and use the proper latches. A few lunches at McDonalds difference in price and an afternoon in time to do it right seems like a small price to pay for safety.

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theres no way short of redesigning the cab sides with 1 1/2" or 2" square tubing, to increase the width of the jamb. I could bring the door out to 1 1/2" at max, and then I could run the mini bear claw latches I found that come from the UK, because there just under 1 1/2". but I would still need to attach the striker bolt on the inside of the jamb ( welded tab or something ) because the jamb would be 1/2" too narrow...

I have had a car door fly open on me.. 1995 Escort with a worn out latch

all in all, the safety latch in conjunction with the simple MR.Roadster latch, and should be just as safe/ I won't need to re engineer anything
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What about something like this (if it engages far enough)-

http://www.roadkillcustoms.com/hot-r...ls.asp?id=2498

Or tihs?

http://www.airbagit.com/product-p/door-sui-00.htm

I'm with Brian on this-my Car came from the Factory with "cabinet latches" and I changed it over to Bearclaws-I was concerned of what might happen in a wreck-
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I like the looks of those automatic safety latches.. there cheaper too
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