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Old 07-08-2005, 09:57 PM
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What is the fastest drying clear available...

Due to poor facilities..I'm having to tent one side at a time for the clear coat (shop to small for a '37 x 12' coach). I need a very fast drying clear to use on a large motor home. I am repainting the stripes on the nose and rear...the rest of the coach is perfect except it has painted stripes and gel coat areas too...needs clear to make it easy to clean and give it a uniform gloss.

What is the consensus regarding the fastest drying durable clear...that might make painting this albatross easier..

Thanks ...Stan M.

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Old 07-08-2005, 10:53 PM
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I had real good luck With PPG's Omnni brand clear on a big surface. If it dries to fast overspray melt in may be an issue and you don't want to be buffing Had to paint outside the booth and mostly wet the floor and ran the booth fan letting it draw out what it could .. http://www.a2zautoforums.com/showthread.php?t=1195

I was imppressed with the Omni in this situation
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10-4 on the overspray melt...it's a two edged sword....trash if it dries slow and dull areas if it dries too fast. I plan on opening it up and moving real fast...I believe I will have a bigger proiblem with trash than anything else...under these circumstances...

.... looks like you really had some fun with that rig ...quite a job.....nice!

Glad I'm only having to get a shine...graphics would be too much for a tent job.
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Fast drying clears...Anyone else?

How long till dry enough not to collect trash...
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If you check some tech sheets, they will tell you dust free time. PPG had a clear named nct clear which was very fast, but this was a long time ago and I doubt they still make it. I am not exactly sure on what you are doing, but if you are doing a large area you don't want it setting up too fast. Nason clear with the spot panel activator is pretty fast too, was having trouble clearing a small area (motorcycle frame) it was drying so fast. Basically every manufacturer has a speed clear, but you want to be able to get what you need painted without dry spots and edges.
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You may want to check out Stratoclear from PPG. I use it for parts, single panels, etc. It WILL be dry to touch in 15-20 min. Don't think I'm brave enough to try it on a entire job (I like to take my own sweet time). I do know 2 people who do use it on entire jobs and they love it!
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try dupont hypercure hc-7600s. with fast act that stuff is dust free in 5min or less. i've tried alot of the turbo clears out there and have to say that is the fastest i've seen.
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Yeah, 7600 is pretty fast. The dealership I worked at in the 90's had chromabase mixing system and would paint panel repairs out on the shop floor using that clear. The dupont rep even gave us a tshirt that said 7600 on it and also said gun it and go.
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if it was back in the 90's then that was the old 7600s super productive. the new stuff is the hc-7600s. probably came out about 3-4 years ago. its waaaaaaay faster.
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Thank you guys...

I'm way behind the times... late '80's since I did much paint. I figured there was some super fast dry clear out there...just hadn't looked for any yet. Thanks for the leads..


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Just my opinion but I think Dupont's HC7600 would be way too fast for a large area.
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I also think you may be looking at the wrong type of clear here.

Number one in Texas when you do paint it will be at least 90 this time of year and number two, that plastic booth will be like a green house.

With a fast clear you will have a trash problem from solvent and a potential dry spraying problem and a die-back problem and or a solvent pop problem.

The only difference in flash time (dust free) between fast and allover type clear may be 8-10 minutes longer at 90 degrees.

I would go with an allover clear and spray about 6:30 in the morning.
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You may be right Barry...I haven't really come up with a plan I like at all...worrying a little too much about trash possibly.

I'm planning on shooting at first decent light if it's calm. If not calm I will wait another day till it is....however I suspect that the temps will be mid 70's about then...mmm maybe 80 degrees..but I don't think much over that ...

Maybe an all over clear with a fast dry reducer..?

Do you have any particular clear /thinner in mind...?

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Any allover or large area clear will work.
But lose the terms Fast reducer and fast activator.

Out side painting is different than inside.
Personally from what I have seen a lot of times the jobs come out cleaner when done outside.

Just do early in morning, so clear is well on way of drying before sun hits it.
You would be smart to shoot the base night before, just watch open coat times.
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Outside painting

Well now I am not one of the fancy painters but used to do boats and yachts..we did those one coat per day..soon as the dew came off we shot a coat..then the next morning run over the area with some fine paper to pickup any trash that may have gotten in..Second morning..same deal..then on the third morning do the final and that is a gun done coat..

Biggest problem I run into is guys wanting to "push the job" and being in a rush..that caused a lot of problems..

If there is a shady spot or rig a tarp so the paint area is shaded that is real nice to have..

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