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Old 08-21-2010, 07:50 AM
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it comes in two versions small repair and large,the large repair is a thicker low sag formula. the small repair is a flowable putty alittle thinner than the ez sand your useing. the thing i like most about useing them together is that they both sand at the same rate. if you have a small low spot you want to take care of in the filler coat you just sanded you can just wipe that spot. then sand it level without having to skim the entire area. the large repair comes in a 1/2 gallon, gallon, and 3gallon dispensing pale. you do have to buy the hardener seperate it uses a high temp (hot weather slow) and a low temp (cold weather fast hardener). it is a 10 to 1 mix ratio. if you think about trying it ask your paint store if the can get the starter kit, comes with two 1/2 gallons of filler and 3 hightemp, three low temp, as well as a pack of metal spreaders. the small repair putty comes in a foil pack or a chaulk tube to dispense the hardener and filler in the correct ratio with a standerd chaulk gun. yes you don't need to buy anymore paper lower than 80 grit that alone makes up for the cost of having to buy hardener.

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Hmmmm, next time I get out of my cave I'll have to look into this...sounds like a lot of guys are using it...
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Old 08-22-2010, 10:36 AM
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fyi if you do pick up some quantum 1 and don't already use metal spreaders get the hard plastic ones .for some reason this stuff doesn't like those cheap thin dynatron spreaders they won't spread it thin.
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db,

I've used Z-Grip for many years, it is more like old-school fillers in that it can be layed on pretty thick and cheesegrated down before going to sandpaper. I keep a gallon on the shelf for certain jobs that are going to take a bit of extra fill.

But for most damage that has been repaired to the point where the fill will be pretty thin, you can't beat modern filer like Rage or Platinum. Many times the need for a finishing putty is all but eliminated due to the finer texture.

There's no way I would put up with having to use Z-Grip on a daily basis for normal bodywork. It's just not as good.
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Nothing over 1/8" thick.

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I will need to go up to probably .25", with the way the panel seams are designed. To be clear, this is not hack body work, this is just the way the laps are made... Worse one is the roof to rear quarter. should I try and add weld? or is there a filler product that can be used here? something glass reinforced or metal to metal?
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i have used all evercoat fillers and rage extreme is my favorite

as of late i have been keystone premium Gold filler in my body shop and have fell in love with it,sands amazing and its not any cheaper than a gallon of rage.

i never liked rage once it set-up it was like sanding concrete.

with the key gold it can set for a full day and hit with some 80 and its all good.


best of luck and i would take there advise and fully weld the seams,if not after the project is done and everything shrinks it will show your tack welds,not pretty.


best of luck,Travis
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i have used all evercoat fillers and rage extreme is my favorite

as of late i have been keystone premium Gold filler in my body shop and have fell in love with it,sands amazing and its not any cheaper than a gallon of rage.

i never liked rage once it set-up it was like sanding concrete.

with the key gold it can set for a full day and hit with some 80 and its all good.


best of luck and i would take there advise and fully weld the seams,if not after the project is done and everything shrinks it will show your tack welds,not pretty.


best of luck,Travis
key gold is rage gold with there lable on it in case they ever stop carrying key gold you'll know what it is. it is a good filler
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I will need to go up to probably .25", with the way the panel seams are designed. To be clear, this is not hack body work, this is just the way the laps are made... Worse one is the roof to rear quarter. should I try and add weld? or is there a filler product that can be used here? something glass reinforced or metal to metal?
if you add weld you run the chance of warping the metal and may have a bigger issue. you should be fine as long as all of your seams are solid welded. i am assuming that your only talking about a norrow area that will be that thick?
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key gold is rage gold with there lable on it in case they ever stop carrying key gold you'll know what it is. it is a good filler
that's what i was told,i love it.thanks for the info that confirms what my dist.told me
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