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Old 08-19-2010, 10:21 AM
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what filler?

65 mustang fastback, need recommendations on what filler to use for:

1. roof to A pillar & roof to rear quarter seams

2. everywhere else for regular bodywork filler

Cost is not a factor, would rather use the best to reduce potential issues...

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Jeff

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Old 08-19-2010, 10:52 AM
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Evercoat RAGE Extreme is one of the best on the market. They also have other types of filler for specific applications (metal and fiberglass reinforced etc)

bought mine from Eastwood but I am sure you can get it at a lot of places
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Is rage extreme OK to use on body seams?
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I like the marson platinum myself it does all that I need to do..

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Is rage extreme OK to use on body seams?
Only if the body seams have been welded to prevent movement. If the seams have not been welded solid there is no filler that will not eventually crack over time in body seams.

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Yes, seams have been plug welded with 5/16th plug welds about every inch. Also have to do the seam between the rear quarter and that filler piece between the rear window and the trunk. I believe these seams were leaded from the factory. the filler will likely need to be about .25" thick to fill...

Will the rage extreme be OK or should it be metal to metal or something fiber reinforced?
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Plug welding will not work, they need to be welded solid or you will see a ghost seam after in sunlight after a few minutes.
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rage extreme/and 416 metalglaze or 417 glaze will work fine for all your needs
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Any of you guys ever use a product called Marine Tex?

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Plug welding will not work, they need to be welded solid or you will see a ghost seam after in sunlight after a few minutes.
So true,prep work is everything,weld that seam from one end to the other ...pretty much any quality bondo will work for you all the above are good ,it takes a few years to develop a preference ...myself, I like Z-grip and ez sand poly putty...
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Thanks for the info... Rage extreme it is...

is there a drop dead maximum thickness?
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Thanks for the info... Rage extreme it is...

is there a drop dead maximum thickness?
Nothing over 1/8" thick.

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Now Ive got a question.....
I've heard so much about Rage bondo I've gotta try it ,but when I go down to get some I always cave ,and get my Z-grip ....
have any of you Rave users used z-grip as your main choice before being a Rage fan...if so how does it compare...I've been using z-grip for 15-20yrs ,its awful hard to switch...
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never used Z but i have used every other filler evercoat makes as well as 3m light weight, ultra light weight , and zebra. i am now using evercoat quantim 1 great product i like not having to pick up anything lower than 80 grit. no having to worry about catching it at the right time to shape. sand the same no matter how long it sits. I think its more suited for the experianced tech. the rage products are great too i've used them four yrs, i don't know about z grip but the rage extreme does get a little tacky on the surface unless you catch it right before it hardens and shape it with 40 or 80 grit. if i remember right the quamtum 1 is a mix between a poly and an epoxy takes alot of hardener though but sands real fast. it took me about a week to figure out the tricks to using the rage and the quantum1. oh yea the z grips attraction back in the day was great adhesion to all metal glvanized steal aluminum ect,ect, all of there newer product do the same thing i would try some and see if you like it. I think if you find something that makes your work easier and faster it can't hurt
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the Z has a fairly long window for sanding but you do have to sit right there to catch it or you'll forget about it and it'll be to late..but once it gets hard enough to not smear when to rub your finger over it,its ready ,just shape with 36 lightly ...after it cures its ready for a little 80 then ez sand Usually one coat of bondo and two coats of putty sanded up to 320 ...first putty coat starts at 80 and worked to 180 second starts with 180 and up to 320 ,then prime lightly...no need for thick 2k primer...I like SPI's epoxy reduced 10% as it sands easy.
The last time I used a 2k for primer was Spi's sealer ,that worked very well as a primer for me.I didnt care to much for it as a sealer though,its a little thick and needed sanding....I hate sanding a sealer.
.I never heard of quantum it also sounds interesting ...You can start sanding with 80? sounds like putty ,is it kinda soupy???

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