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View Poll Results: What is George Bush's IQ
Greatest mind since Ronald Regan got alzheimer's 5 8.20%
Dan Quayle with a lobotomy 12 19.67%
Smarter than Alan Greenspan 6 9.84%
Trickier than Tricky Dick 2 3.28%
Half cousin to Curious George the monkey 36 59.02%
Voters: 61. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-22-2004, 10:01 PM
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What is George Bush's Real IQ?

Take your pick.

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Old 08-22-2004, 10:17 PM
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Bush and Kerry are both very intelligent.

Here is a quote from Kerry about his war crimes;
http://www.iowapresidentialwatch.com...errytales2.htm

I question the intelligence of the people that still support him. In fact, most people I have talked that support Kerry are more interested in getting rid of Bush, then they are into electing Kerry. The funny thing is they don't watch the news, read the paper, or have any substantial sources for their beliefs.

The small number of people that do read and watch the news, watch the liberal extremist CNN, or read papers such as The New York Times. Or heaven forbid, believe the destructive lies of Micheal Moore.

Most news agencies are severely liberal. If you get out and do some research you will find that Bush is doing an exceptional job in office. Gross National Product is up, the unemployment rate is down, and interest rates are still low. We have the best wartime economy right now.

Kerry doesn't get specific about any plans for improving the United States. He promises bread in every basket, but he has no idea how that is going to happen. There is no "plan" as Kerry wants people to believe.
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Old 08-22-2004, 10:23 PM
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If one of them stated that would repeal the free trade agreement that person would get a big lead on the other. I'd vote fer 'im based on just that. I want my damn job back here in the U.S.A.

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Old 08-22-2004, 10:27 PM
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Out of anyone, the liberal Democrats will be the ones to ship the jobs overseas. Bush has already alluded to a new tax on companies conducting business outside the U.S.
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Old 08-22-2004, 10:30 PM
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Since we are digging up the past, we might as well dig up some bones out of Dubya's closet. Like being drunk and getting DUI's, makes me proud.

The bravest thing George did during Vietnam was show up for a dentist appointment while he was AWOL from the Texas Air National Guard.

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The small number of people that do read and watch the news, watch the liberal extremist CNN, or read papers such as The New York Times. Or heaven forbid, believe the destructive lies of Micheal Moore.

So should we listen to something fair and balanced?
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Old 08-22-2004, 10:35 PM
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You have never been drunk?

You never made mistakes when you were younger?

That is a reason to elect someone who is going to put our safety in the hands of the French? Does that mean Jauques Chirac will dictate our future? The guy that helped Iraq build it's nuclear power plant that turned out to be an enrichment plant?

Kerry tried to cop out too.

The bravest thing Bush has done is to protect our country against imminent attack, even though a large portion of Americans are too scared, or too blind to see the danger?
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You'll probably blast me for saying it..... but, I really don't care what his military service record is. It has little to no bearing on his ability to make sound decisions concerning this country and it's well being. It would be nice if he understood the ramifications of his military decisions from firsthand experience. I don't recall too many presidents that did military service in wartime. We have had Presidents that did and did not serve during wartime and the majority of them did a fine job.

I don't think that too many people his age could pass a polygraph test concerning pot-smoking or excessive drinking. DUI is a nother matter altogether. When was the arrest made? Was he young, did he learn not to do it again. Presidents are people too. They make mistakes, sometimes very big ones. The true judge of character is whether or not a lesson was carried away from the mistake.

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So Lucy would punish the whistle blower and let the guilty go.

Here's the Swift vets de-bunked.
Vet retracts statement

Swift_Vets

Media_Liars

Submerging_the_Truth

Yet another analysis


"Blind indeed are those with eyes who will not see."
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Since we are digging up the past, we might as well dig up some bones out of Dubya's closet. Like being drunk and getting DUI's, makes me proud.

The bravest thing George did during Vietnam was show up for a dentist appointment while he was AWOL from the Texas Air National Guard.




So should we listen to something fair and balanced?
Fox news is a lot more fair than the others. Fortunately, I watch CNN, the local liberal circus, and other democrat driven publications as well. You can't get well rounded input from watching one source.

The Republicans are actually riding the fence right now. They have conservative and liberal views. The Democrats are pushed so far to the left now, that they have completely lost site of their duty to this country.

If you can't see that most news agencies are liberal you have got to be blind. They all boost Kerry and downplay Bush.

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So Lucy would punish the whistle blower and let the guilty go.

Here's the Swift vets de-bunked.
Vet retracts statement

Swift_Vets

Media_Liars

Submerging_the_Truth

Yet another analysis


"Blind indeed are those with eyes who will not see."
There are a couple who felt they went too far in their testimony. There are still over a hundred supporting their stories....Blind man!

Kerry's Christmas in Cambodia claims were also untrue. He came out and said he lied about the whole thing. He was never in Cambodia. Kerry is a self appointed liar.
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Kerry's Christmas in Cambodia claims were also untrue. He came out and said he lied about the whole thing. He was never in Cambodia. Kerry is a self appointed liar. [/B]
Lets see some credible sources for your ravings.
You say lots of things but I never see you post any actual evidence of anything.
So what you have to say is nothing but unsupported opinion.
Thats fine, everyone is entitled to an opinion, but having an opinion does not make it fact.
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Lets see some credible sources for your ravings.
You say lots of things but I never see you post any actual evidence of anything.
So what you have to say is nothing but unsupported opinion.
Thats fine, everyone is entitled to an opinion, but having an opinion does not make it fact.

I have posted a few.

It won't be hard to find this one. Kerry came out publicly and said he lied about Cambodia.

Here is one credible source. I will keep looking for John Kerrys admission.

http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200408101318.asp

Another source... pretty comical, but nevertheless serves it's purpose.

http://www.iowapresidentialwatch.com...ambodiaLie.htm
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Well, while you're looking, see if you can't find something other than the National review.
which BTW actually quoted one of the members of Kerrys crew:
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Finally, another member of Kerry's crew, Jim Wasser, who supports Kerry in the presidential race, told the Dallas Observer last month that he wasn't sure where PCF-44 was at the time in question. "On Christmas in 1968, we were close [to Cambodia]," Wasser said. "I don't know exactly where we were. I didn't have the chart. It was easy to get turned around with all the rivers around there. But I'll say this: We were the farthest inland that night. I know that for sure."
So even your own source waffles on the details.


I wouldn't post something from NPR or Amy Goodwin and expect you to take it seriously, give me something from a Credible news source. You know, The New York Times, The Boston Globe, Newsweek, etc, etc.

For your enjoyment here is an article from Business Week, if you don't think thats too left wing.
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Flinging the Foul Mud of Vietnam
John Kerry returned a hero. The smears his political enemies are now flinging mark them -- not him -- as beneath contempt
Like what you have said though, it's opinion, not hard evidence.
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Old 08-22-2004, 11:28 PM
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The Boston Globe and the New York post? Why not just ask Jane Fonda?
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Your eyeballs must be twitching again.
I said
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a Credible news source. You know, The New York Times, The Boston Globe, Newsweek, etc, etc.
(emphasis added.)

lluciano77 nothing anyone says or any evidence you see is going to make one iota of difference to you. For whatever reason, your mind is made up.
Why don't you get off your high horse for a while.

You make some pretty cool posts when you're not on a rant but talking cars like everybody else.

That said, you didn't start the poll. Go ahead on guy, tear it up..
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Twitch, twitch,... I meant the New York Times.

My mind is never made up. I am always open to new input. If I think the new input is less than true I dispute it. The overwhelming amount of evidence pointing in Bush's favor is just that.

Rant, rave whatever you want to call it, but with so many people out there wanting change for the sake of change, at the expense of our safety I do tend to get carried away.

What's the matter. What is wrong with an honest debate? That is what grown ups do. It is a way to hear the opinions from the other side of the fence. Wouldn't you agree debate is an important milestone on the road to enlightenment?

Isn't a lounge where where people discuss things? Have you ever been to an actual lounge? Are you saying people don't, or shouldn't talk politics in a lounge?

The definition of the Hotrodders Lounge:
A place to hang out and discuss non-automotive stuff.

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