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Old 05-07-2012, 09:18 PM
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Sure, hotrodding is taking something less desirable and turning it into something more desirable. I dig hell outta the idea of transplanting a 'Vette drive train and suspension into something else. I dig hell outta sleepers. But it should also be said that just because something can be envisioned doesn't necessarily make it a good idea. And I honestly believe a Del Sol/'Vette for a first ever project by someone new to it all, w/o even garage space to work in, falls into that category.

I'd feel a lot better endorsing a less-ambitious project (V8/S10, for an example) as a first time project, than jumping well and truly into the deep end of car building w/a Honda/Corvette merger.

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A slant six is something of a classic.

If you're into Jeeps, so are AMC 6s. I guess.

It's something less than classic, but I figure I can put something together V6 mustang wise that may not altogether be a complete waste of time.
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Yes it is , Augusto... but no one is an IDIOT for doing it , or wanting too. Thats the point here.
I agree absolutely, if this was the case then Carol Shelby would of being the biggest idiot of them all.

and I also believe that the op has a bad idea of a first time project, this is something for a serious/pro fabricator, he should start with something that takes almost 100% bolt-ons to get the idea of hotrodding.
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A honda del sol is a solid built car and can be built to run well.
Personnaly I would look to supercharge the 4 cylinder that is in it.
this would be a very fun project, there are thousands of parts to upgrade the honda engines and they can reach near 1.000 hp (not very street friendly though) but very doable, less fabrication, much better handling, and way much less expensive, even a 100hp nitrous kit can be a blast in the del sol.
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X2. Several years ago I got talked into going to Speed World on "Tuner" night. Thought all I'd see was a bunch of fart-can 4-poppers trying to hit 18's in the quarter.

Man, was I wrong!

There were cars there (Honda seemed to be the primary make) that were running 8s that sounded almost like a stocker w/a little louder exhaust when idling. Running turbos and a LOT of boost. Some of them were down right awesome.
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X2. Several years ago I got talked into going to Speed World on "Tuner" night. Thought all I'd see was a bunch of fart-can 4-poppers trying to hit 18's in the quarter.

Man, was I wrong!

There were cars there (Honda seemed to be the primary make) that were running 8s that sounded almost like a stocker w/a little louder exhaust when idling. Running turbos and a LOT of boost. Some of them were down right awesome.
I wasn't entirely being facetious when I joked about working for the Secret Service because I was on board with the idea of cheap and available.

I got into hotrodding musclecars because that's what people were selling cheap back in the '70s. Maybe it was different in your neck of the woods, but I could pick up Superbee or a 460 Gran Torino for next to nothing. If I had to do it all over again now, and use whatever was least expensive on the used market, it would probably be something Japanese.
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truth is here the 4 banger rice burners dominate the races but only because good old american iron is very rare and most muscle-cars that are around are not modifyed for racing, just a few bolt on's from edelbrock, so we see some impresive subaru, honda and evo's running like bats out of hell, but me and some friends are determined to make things change, we have a club named CLUB V8, the name says it all, and we run american cars just because we love the sound the V8 engine makes, also because we dared to be different, some punk kid shows up with a opel corsa, chevy aveo or hyundai and thinks he's got a supercar and gets his door blown off by a camaro, that's just a great feeling.

but 4 bangers can be turned into great racing engines, I can't forget those fiat 131 racing, rally cars or the lancia delta integrale, wow..!! so the little del sol can be in fact become a corvette eater if done right.

but... I'll stick to V8's thanks.
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Well said- especially the last line! You guys from way South and other places not well known for hotrodding like the Middle East, Eastern Europe, Africa, etc. have always had my admiration for overcoming long odds and having to fabricate almost everything because of the shortage of aftermarket parts. We here in the States have it easy- most everything can be bought. Still I applaud those who do their own work, though, whether they are here or somewhere else..
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Well said- especially the last line! You guys from way South and other places not well known for hotrodding like the Middle East, Eastern Europe, Africa, etc. have always had my admiration for overcoming long odds and having to fabricate almost everything because of the shortage of aftermarket parts. We here in the States have it easy- most everything can be bought. Still I applaud those who do their own work, though, whether they are here or somewhere else..

Speaking of Africa, I didn't know it was possible to mount a satellite dish on a thatched roof mud hut.

Then I saw it and I thought, why not?
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A hotrodder will hotrod anything!

I love the DelSol idea. Yes it is insane. Yes its almost completely impossible. Yes its not practical. Yes it may not be the absolute best project for a newbie but everyone must start somewhere. One of my first was a 400 SBC in a 74 Dodge Colt. Fun in a straight line but curves made it want to rollover and play dead. This was in 1986 and I was a new driver and even newer hotrodder. The Vette driveline is a cool idea. Their are companies that specialize in wiring a harness that will make the little motor run just fine. My only concern with a new hotrodder taking on something like this is that they become overwhelmed and discouraged and it can make them throw in the hotrodding towel before they get started. I will stand and applaude anyone with a set big enough to tackle this and see it through. Good Luck.
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Old 07-12-2012, 07:30 PM
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Not sure if the op is still considering doing this but you need to start with a rwd car. Its not worth it on a del sole
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i had a rather long post made, but i'd likely be speaking to the wall. i'm still here, and i'm still planning. lots of things going on in life, as well as a nice letter from the IRS forcing me to push things back for a while. a lot of the things said are right, but a lot of the stuff coming out is typical muscle car drivel regarding import chassis. i've got a sort of road map laid out so i can upgrade and reinforce the car without having to sell parts at a loss when i tear it out for a v8 later. i'm likely going to get the car framed and caged before year's end, if only to eliminate existing (and godawful) roof creak. i'm not really sure why people still think import cars are paper thin, but to each their own.


and when i'm an old fart, i'm going to tell my kids about the old days when people used to 'stick to their kind', and not even think about trying to cross families and platforms in pursuit of speed and a good rush
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Old 07-12-2012, 09:14 PM
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Hey man i like your ambition, and i too love imports. But i just dont think its worth the headache or money. You could sell the car and pick up an rx7, 240sx, 300zx, bmw, mercedes, audi, s2000 shell, miata, rx8 shell, lexus, mk3 supra, etc.... All of which would be a better investment and end up a better car. I'm not trying to tell you not to do it, just trying to show you theres a lot of options for what you want to do. Just make sure you make a decision that will work best for you money, time, and effort wise. I'd hate for you to end up out of money with a half finished project, seen it happen before.
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i'm well aware of the options out there. i just don't feel like spending 15k+ on a car likely beat to hell that i have to fix up before i can build up. and they are ALL beat to hell if it's in an 'affordable' price range. i also live in nyc, and being a sleeper deters the average thief. del sol parked next to an s2k/supra/rx7/etc? if i were the thief i wouldn't bother with the dinky sol. whenever i park somewhere i'm not comfortable i make it a point to park near a nicer car, because i know it makes a more attractive target. i happen to have a soft spot for this chassis, and if and when i go through with it, it's because i want to make it happen (and have the cash in hand). i would've been up **** creek without a car months ago if i just dove into a project without thinking it through more.

i have a 240 with a motor that hasn't been turned over in 2 1/2 years that i'll be refreshing to use as a second car, and possibly also giving it the ls1 treatment. sadly i already know in my heart i'm not keeping that car. but i love driving this little car around and don't feel like selling it to buy another person's headache to get a 'better' 2-seater. i'd rather buy a wagon or sedan for a second car, and keep tooling around on my personal joy toy. that future better car can be a subaru, or a bagged b-body wagon. or i could go with luxury sedans, but one thing at a time. and right now that one thing is getting this project off the 'not gonna happen' board onto the 'it might actually work' board. i'm already on that board, but i'll need help from others if i'm to be successful and they're not there yet.
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Hey man don't get me wrong i'm not hating on your project at all. i think its awesome that you're wanting to do something so out there! i'm just making sure you're aware of what you're getting into. all the cars i've listed can be had for around $1000 to $1500. and when you do a swap like you want to, you're going to have to go through everything anyway.
If you're dead set on the del sol then by all means do it! Just know there are better starting points for what you want to do. But if/when you do the del sol it will be awesome.
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