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Old 02-26-2008, 06:55 PM
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what other ifs,s is there out there besides the mustang 11

Hi , guys just thinking what other ifs is out there to fit the 1933-34 mopars, besides the mustang 11.Would rather have something stronger, has anyone used a s-10 truck front crossmenber,or can it even be used with this type of fenderd car.

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http://www.progressiveautomotive.com/index.htm

I don't know if Bob makes a kit for your vehicle, but I just received my front crossmember for my 35 Ford pickup, and I'm EXTREMELY pleased with the quality. It uses the corvette setup.
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I'm a huge advocate for the Ford Twin I-Beam IFS. I usually scab mine from an F-150 2wd donor. I'm partial to it because, at first glance, it appears to be a traditional straight axle. Here's the 1978 Twin I-Beam under my '32 pickup:





If you click here and then go to the entries near the beginning of the journal, you can see step-by-step fabrication for the I-Beams.
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There are some IFS being built now that use the Caprice spindles..Those maintain the stock GM rotors and calipers..Jim Meyers out in Oregon is one of the people doing this..He does nice work..

Also it is not an impossible job to build your own with all the info we now have available..

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late jag

I bought a couple of late 80's jag ifs..they have 11 1/2 disc and rear steer. I plan on building a new tube crosmember, willl use the stock one to make a fixture to get all the pivot and bolt holes in the right spot. will use coil overs and the WIKI article shows using a cavilair R & p center pivot a racing design similar costs a grand for just the rack unit. some guys also are using dodge dokata drop out units

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I have a customer with a 33 plymouth who has a volare torsion bar independent set up, I 'll see if it was an old chassis engineering kit or another brand. I know it was a kit using volare donor parts, and the plus of the adjustable ride height is great, and it rides super!
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I'm a huge advocate for the Ford Twin I-Beam IFS.
I had not seen that before. That's VERY cool. Nice job.
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I have seen the Volare cross torsion bar suspension and it really rides nice. The twin I beam is very interesting and I bet it rides very good besides being very strong. Does the air bag setup cause any camber issues when inflated due to the altered ride height or is it neglible?
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Does the air bag setup cause any camber issues when inflated due to the altered ride height or is it neglible?
I have a very hot-rod-friendly alignment shop nearby that has had the '32 on their machine a couple of times and everything checks out very well according to them. I DID have a problem early on with some very strange tire wear (big scuffs across the tire but at an angle) which turned out to be the result of under rated Pete and Jakes shorty shocks.

I redid my shock mounts and put on some Cerrera QA-1 adjustable shocks and the problem has dissapeared (also improved the ride). So at 25K miles, I have to say the camber issues are negligible - although keep in mind that even the stock Twin I-Beams suffer from a bit of camber related tire wear showing up over time. It's just the nature of the design. But personally, I'm willing to replace the tires every 40-50K if I have to in order to maintain the traditional look of the front end. It doesn't make sense for EVERY car, but for late 20s and early 30s cars, I think it's a nice alternative.

Oh, and just be aware that not all Twin I-Beams are alike. Through 1979 they maintained the drop forged look (like the pictures above). 80 and 81 they started changing the shape and style - but still usable. After '81 I would say the axles are no longer usable in terms of trying to maintain the traditional straight axle look.

Just for comparison purposes, here are some '81 I-Beams that are under my roadster which incorporate coil over shocks rather than air bags:



And here are some '79 I-Beams that are under my sedan delivery which use quarter elliptical leaf springs:

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I'm a big fan of the Jag IFS for the big cars. They're made for the extra weight, the width is usually pretty close to perfect, and they practically bolt right in. I keep the stock power steering too (rear steer). You can pick up a mid to late 80's XJ6 for almost nothing anymore and use front and rear suspensions. Here's a link to some pics of one being installed in a '49 Merc.
http://www.geocities.com/hotrodder1938/chopper.html

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C-boy,
you are no doubt one of the most "excellent"* innovators around (I also hadn't ever seen the twin i-beams)

*=totally functional/relatively inexpensive and easy to build/and it does look great/and it is "different!"

any chance you could do a single thread with all the different innovations you have posted (like the $20 grill and $5 pan firewall cover)....they all really should be "someplace" in the Knowledge Base

hey, maybe we really should have a "Innovations" catagory in the Knowledge Base....because that's what Hot Rodding is all about
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you are no doubt one of the most "excellent"* innovators around
Geesh Red, you're making me blush.

But my wife has a much more accurate term for me---"cheap sob".
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cboy,
my wife disagrees.....she says you are a "thrifty smart sob" because the money you didn't spend on the suspension would go into her next home re-modeling project to buy more expensive better quality "stuff"
(like the $32 per sq ft tile I just layed in the never used guest bathroom.....$800/25sqft to walk in and take a dump!!! good grief!!!)

I figure everybody is born with atleast a small gift to do something(????) a little bit smarter or better than most.....you happened to get "alot bigger gift" for innovation than most.... your gift deserves to be recognized and respected....(now you can blush)
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...my wife disagrees.....she says you are a "thrifty smart sob" because the money you didn't spend on the suspension would go into her next home re-modeling project to buy more expensive better quality "stuff"
I'm likin' your wife's way of thinking. It's just one teeny tiny step away from, "But honey, the only reason I'm building is this car is because of all the money I'm going to save and spend on YOU."

"Now I better get back out to the garage dear, so I can buy your something REALLY nice."
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So!! That how you do it Cboy.LOL Now you let the cat out of the bag!!!
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