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Old 02-05-2012, 10:48 AM
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What Products Do You Like Best???

I just want to know everyone's opinions on the products that they believe are the best and why they feel that way about the products.
This includes:

Primers
Sealers
Paint/ Base Coat
Clear Coat
Putty
Polishing Stuff
Other Great Products?

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USC polyester glazing putty
Evercoat body fillers
Meguiar's compounds/waxes
PPG Deltron base
SPI epoxy
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Once I use a product, and it fails... I stop using it forever.

Here is what I use, with consistant results, despite varying conditions.

PRIMER Marhyde Ultimate Primer (2K urethane)
SEALER Sherwin Williams Sur-lac... (red, gray, or tintable)
PAINT/BASE COATS R-M, House of Kolor, and X-Otic Colours (Use as needed)
CLEARCOAT R-M Diamont DC92
PUTTY Fiberglass Evercoat Euroglaze
POLISHING: Sand with 1200 Meguiars, 3-M 6031 comp. with white waffle pad,
...then 3-M 05973 comp with gray waffle pad.
OTHER Grow Products reducers,
3M green paper masking tape,
Dupont 222S clear adhesion promoter.

Of course sandpaper grits and drying times play a key role too.

This system has worked for me for 10-12 years without fail. I occasionally use other systems at customer's request.... but none ever give me the consistant "workability"... flexibility... and quality that this has.
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Old 02-05-2012, 11:16 AM
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spi epoxy
ppg concept ss for color
prospray base when forced to use base
spi clears
the chemicals guys compounds

i use no primers or sealers.
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Once I use a product, and it fails... I stop using it forever.

Here is what I use, with consistant results, despite varying conditions.

PRIMER Marhyde Ultimate Primer (2K urethane)
SEALER Sherwin Williams Sur-lac... (red, gray, or tintable)
PAINT/BASE COATS R-M, House of Kolor, and X-Otic Colours (Use as needed)
CLEARCOAT R-M Diamont DC92
PUTTY Fiberglass Evercoat Euroglaze
POLISHING: Sand with 1200 Meguiars, 3-M 6031 comp. with white waffle pad,
...then 3-M 05973 comp with gray waffle pad.
OTHER Grow Products reducers,
3M green paper masking tape,
Dupont 222S clear adhesion promoter.

Of course sandpaper grits and drying times play a key role too.

This system has worked for me for 10-12 years without fail. I occasionally use other systems at customer's request.... but none ever give me the consistant "workability"... flexibility... and quality that this has.
So you use Dupont 222S before your sealer? Why is that? Do you use it for flow coating too?
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Holy crap did you get that 222S from a sunken ship or or with a time machine or something, I didn't even know it was still available!

From what I remember it is simply lacquer clear and a very slow thinner. At least from what I remember, that is what it was. Not something I would use today.

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So you use Dupont 222S before your sealer? Why is that? Do you use it for flow coating too?
I don't use it on every job... just when adhesion may be questionable.

An example was when a bike customer had a bunch of his metal engine parts copper plated, and then polished. I knew if they were left exposed they would turn brownish and eventually have a blue oxide show up.

I also could not sand them, as it would ruin the polished surfaces.

I told him what I had in mind, and that I could not guarantee that it would stick well to a polished surface that gets hot.

The only other option was to drive 250 miles twice, to have them clear anodized by an anodizing business that offered "micro polishing/chemical polishing".

I used the 222S, then two coats of catalyzed clear. That was about 10-12 years ago. They still look good.
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Holy crap did you get that 222S from a sunken ship or or with a time machine or something, I didn't even know it was still available!

From what I remember it is simply lacquer clear and a very slow thinner. At least from what I remember, that is what it was. Not something I would use today.

Brian
I'm not a chemist. It may be lacquer based... but it's a slightly yellowish mix... and damn sure doesn't smell like lacquer!!! That stuff will choke you to death! :-( It might even be "yak p!$$" for all I know....but it sticks to a questionable surface better than anything else I've used in the last 47 years!

I am about to use it to complete a half-finished a job that has set for 2-3 years... and cannot be sanded without ruining a bunch of airbrush work.

I usually only have a need for it every 3-4 years. Not on normal jobs.
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222s is a adhesion promoter ready to spray outta the can made by Dupont. we used it all the time back when we used Dupont.

i use Pro-spray base everyday in my shop
i use everything else SPI(primers,sealers,epoxy,w-g remover,reducers clears)

i have had better luck and success with these Products over any of the others i have ever used.


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I can't figure out how to get some SPI products. Does anyone know where they're sold in Ontario/ Toronto? Or if I can get it online for a decent price in Canada?
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Originally Posted by piercetdg
I just want to know everyone's opinions on the products that they believe are the best and why they feel that way about the products.
This includes:

Primers
Sealers
Paint/ Base Coat
Clear Coat
Putty
Polishing Stuff
Other Great Products?
SPI primers
Pro-Spray or Concept
SPI clears
SPI w&g remover
Dolphin Glaze
Marson Platinum
3M Compounds
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It seems like everyone uses SPI products here. I made this thread in other forums and no one said anything about SPI products.
I think their clears aren't supposed to be good for down draft air booths. I don't really know.
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