Isin't Chicago Pneumatic the same supplier as HF? at my auto shop class, all the impact guns are IR's. at my house, we have a Dayton 1" drive that is rated for 750 Ft/ lbs, we use adapters.

I think that they are all playing off of a name that is/was big. Chicago Pneumatic or one of them used to be a great company, but all the cheap Harbor Freight crap uses CP on the logos, but is really something else.

That make sense?

Like buying a shirt that has the red square next to the white square, and the initials T.H. The T.H. stands for Thomas Hillinger instead of Tommy Hilfiger.

The HF CP stands for central Pneumatic. Chicago tools is a supplier of Cummings industrial tools ( The cummings truck load sales ), which also does some work with HF. this is what I was told anyway. They are all identicle in designe/ style also.

Matt, You are confusing Chicago Pneumatic with Central Pneumatic. This is a low life attempt by Harbor Freight to entice the unwitting into buying their low priced second rate tools instead of the higher quality real CP tools. The fact that you fell for it is just another example of the unfortunate fact that the scam works The really bad part is that for a "cheapo" tool the Central Pneumatic does ok for what it costs and would probably sell anyway without resorting to scam type sales practices. But beware! Central pneumatic is a cheap second rate tool and nowhere near the quality of the real CP which is a professional quality tool!

Only reason I said that is because sombody told me the suppliers are the same between the 2 tool companies. The Dayton 1" i have works great, but don't have nearly enough impact sockets right now for it to be much use, just a 1"-1/2" adapter and a couple 1/2" deep, 13/16" and 1 larger size we used for a steering nuckle on my moms old '94 Concorde

I have an IR 2135 titanium gun it Will take a 33MM lug nut off with ease . and yes you better have hold with both hands it actually works better than the mac 3/4 inch impact . I have an old snap-on at500 and a cheapo use for light work.

For the money you cannot beat a Chicago Pneumatic. The 1/2 inch drive is the one that seems to get the most use in my shop.

I just purchased a milwaukee 9079 18V 1/2" drive electric impact...and I love this thing. Paid $185 for "used once" (from the condition I believe it, didn't even have a scratch on it) on ebay, works great for dismantling though I think it'd be way too much (and a little bulky) for doing fine engine dismantling without breaking tons of stuff since most people (myself included) have a knob on their impact to adjust BPM/TQ and the trigger is just on/off, the milwaukee gun has a proportional knob and no max BPM/TQ adjustment.

I have decided to get the MT1769 from matco, http://www.matcotools.com/Catalog/t...&select=&page=4

I borrowed it from a friend of mine and it was one powerful gun plus a 2 year warranty, and with my votech discount it was $100 off. Thanks everyone for all their input.

get one off these ingersolrand airguns they are spot on, if you get there 3/4 gun you will be stripping nuts and bolts.
you will only need the 1/2inch one if you are doing cars ans vans

http://www.irtools.com/IS/product.a...261,862,311,955
cheers stuart

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x2 That's the setup I have. 3/8 IR composite and 1/2" IR ti. They are both great units.

for 3/8 drive I primarily use a air ratchet I have several the bad boy of the bunch (when I say the bad boy is the model i've seen used in the bone yards the most with the least amount of complaints)

is the Snap On FAR 72B with good air pressure hold on it will hurt you (I 've knocked a couple of finger nails off with it)I have 3 of them

for repetitive tasks such as putting deck screws through a plank on a trailer i have a 3/8 pistol grip impact Husky
easier to control than a butterfly

I have a elcheapo 1/2 impact for light stuff that I think might break and the I R 231 double anvil
that double anvil comes 3/8 1/2 & 3/4 that I know of the most impressive impact (to me ) ever !!that double hit really does the job

harbor freight by me sells new IR's and CP's as far as I can tell there is NO difference between central and chicago pneumatics if you put them side by side and took off the stickers I cant tell the difference

i bought a Chicago 3/4 drive impact wish i'd bought the IR

now as far as sockets that also depends on how much you are gonna use them my 1/2 is S-K and they are damn tough for what I use them for.

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I`d recomend this one:
http://www.motherofallcordlessimpac....com/snapon.htm

Redrod, Can't get that link to work but if you are talking about the one I think you are(from Snap-On) they are fantastic!