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Old 03-27-2012, 10:45 PM
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What Size Thread On My Singer?

Largest thread Ive used on my singer 111W155 so far is 138. I want to use 207 or 277 thread for bolder stitches. Im pretty sure 207 will work with the machine no problem, but Im not sure about 277. Also is there a website where I can purchase the larger needle sizes. Ive had trouble finding somewhere that has needles larger than #23. Final question is for the 277 thread Ive seen some guys using QTC Contrast, has anyone used it lately?

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Old 03-28-2012, 08:21 AM
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QTC Contrast is size T-270 bonded nylon. That is the same as size 277. 277 is twice as thick as 138. Your machine will not sew well with size 277 thread unless you thread your machine differently by only going straight through the thread guide on the top of the machine , and loosen up the top tension and the bobbin tension dramatically. Even then, 277 is at the very top end of what you can sew with, and you'll have to really go slow.

You will be able to use 207, but you'll have to go slow and change bobbin thread a lot. You'll have to use at least a size 22 needle, 23, 24, or 25 would be better. Your needle system is 135 X 17, and you should be able to find size 24 needles pretty easily on line. Here's one place: CLICK HERE

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Thanks for the help Dan. Ill experiment with the 270 on some french seams. I eventually want a machine that does reverse, what would be a good machine that can handle 270 thread better than my singer. I didnt know the 135x17 was the needle system, Im still learning.
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You'd need something even more heavy duty than the 111W. My long arm Singer 144W204 will handle it with ease, but I would never try to top stitch or do French seams with that, it's just too clumsy. If I were you, I think I'd stick to size 207. I think my Consew 255RB3 would handle it, and it has a really large bobbin so it wouldn't need to be changed as often.
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Nope, 277 won't go through the 255 either, but I don't have a size 24 needle either.
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Ive been using 138 for topstitching, looks nice, but I want something a little bigger. 207 is what I was going to use and then I saw a write up on The Hog Ring on QTC 270 thread. I just saw shannon used the QTC thread on a french seam he did on an arm rest and I like how it really stands out. Ive noticed especially on my interior when doing black on black the stitches kind of get lost with the black material. I guess Ill just do some experimenting, but Ill probably end up going with the 207. Thanks for the advice.
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Shannon Walters has a long arm machine that will work fine to do a small job like an arm rest with big heavy thread. If you use it on one thing in an interior, you should use it on the entire interior. My long arm will do small things like that, but I wouldn't trust myself to do the same thing on seat covers, especially leather seat covers. The long arm machines are way too difficult to control on larger pieces, and leather is way too expensive to experiment on. Trust me when I tell you that 207 thread will stand out just fine. You will also hate yourself because bigger thread is really hard to work with.
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207 it is then. One more thread question. Is polyester thread sometimes harder to sew with? Thats all Ive been using and I thought I read somewhere that it could be more difficult to use than nylon. I just used some brown 138 and I didnt like how it sewed at all, the thread was really stiff compared to my other poly thread. Im guessing its the manufacturer. What thread brand do you tend to lean toward? Sorry for all the questions, just trying to tap into some of your knowledge.
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99% of the thread I use is Sunguard polyester. I've always had good luck with it. I use some nylon thread, but not for a finished product of any kind. I use size 92 for most of my sewing and 138 for the rest. As long as you're using bonded polyester, it should go through your machine just fine. Bonded thread has a coating on it that reduced friction. There is a "B" in front of the size if the thread is bonded B 92 B 138 etc.
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