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Old 09-17-2008, 10:32 PM
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What are these called?????

They look like staples only longer and more heavy duty. They are at the bottom of the pushrod. Not on them but hold the unit togther under the pushrod. I cant find any where to get them let alone what they are called.

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Old 09-17-2008, 10:39 PM
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Lifter tie bars.lifter retainer..Folks call them dog bones or spiders.

Does it look like this?





Did you lose yours?

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Do you have a picture? It sounds like the wire retainer that holds the plunger in the lifter. Doesn't really have much to do with the pushrod. Maybe it has come loose?

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i just bought a 350 and I pulled the heads off and at first I thought they were staples?? Then I realized the lifters retaining clips were cracked!!! Like 3 of em.. There were peices all under the intake manifold. Can you buy these or do I gotta buy new lifters. They do hold the plunger down.
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That doesn't sound too good. Did the engine run before you bought it? Is it otherwise, in good shape? Maybe it's just shot and in need of a new cam and lifters? Or a full overhaul?

If there are parts laying around, I suspect there will be more wrong with it if you dig deeper.
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lifter clips

Go to Lowes; get some internal snap rings or circlips as they're called in the case of piston pin retainers. I've seen GOOD lifters that had internal snap rings instead of the wire clip.
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THANKS GUYS. The motor is in real good shapr just had a massive over haul. It is in great shape just three clips broke no big deal..Its not a bad thing just weak clips. He used the old clips when he put the lifters together which was a half *** move, but oh well.
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He used the old clips when he put the lifters together which was a half *** move, but oh well.
Not aiming this at you, but at the previous owner. My question would be, why did he have the lifters apart? You can't/don't "rebuild" them. You can take them apart for cleaning but on a "fresh rebuild", You usually just toss them. There is too much at risk by reusing old lifters, unless they are roller lifters.

Something just doesn't sound right here.

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They look like staples only longer and more heavy duty. They are at the bottom of the pushrod. Not on them but hold the unit togther under the pushrod. I cant find any where to get them let alone what they are called.
These probably are the retainers for the plungers in the hydraulic lifters. A failure such as you're seeing is usually the combination of the rockers not being adjusted properly to put the needed amount of preload on the lifters combined with excessive high RPMs. These clips are not intended to hold the operating plunger in place, they're there to keep the lifter from coming apart on the assembly line or in storage. when the engine is either set up with too little preload or is run till the lifters pump up, this is the kind of damage that will result.

This is a really good sign that the engine was rev'ved beyond the lifter's ability to track with the cam lobe for a sustained period of time or was done frequently for lesser times per incident. Some cam lobes and lifters may not have survived this without damage. While your already in it you better check this out.

If you're going to run hydraulics on the end of plunger travel so they're against their retainers, the wire retainers need to be replaced with Cir-Clips that have the sharp milled side against the upper land of the retention groove.

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I think if it were mine and i had the engine that far disassembled I would spend the 100.00 and put a new cam and lifter kit in and be done with it, maybe check out the valve springs also
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