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what to use for a frame?

hey guys i am doing a rod project and am throwing around the idea of building a frame wiht the suicide springer front end, and i was just wondering if there is any frame that you guys like to use? or just build one?

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hey guys i am doing a rod project and am throwing around the idea of building a frame wiht the suicide springer front end, and i was just wondering if there is any frame that you guys like to use? or just build one?
What body are you using?

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hey guys i am doing a rod project and am throwing around the idea of building a frame wiht the suicide springer front end, and i was just wondering if there is any frame that you guys like to use? or just build one?
Use an "Art Morrison" frame. Its a great product and you wont have the headache of building it. "Art Morrison.com

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...... i finally got a body off of a guy comeing back from a swap meet at a gas station haha it is old model t touring tub and a front cowl off of what i belive is a late model t.......
A Model T is very narrow, any frame made after 1928 will be too wide.

So you are almost forced to either start with a stock Model T frame or build a frame frome scratch.

Speedway Motors sells reasonably priced frames, kits, etc. If you are a beginner that's the route I would recommend. http://www.speedwaymotors.com/Tradit...ame,24798.html

When I built my '27 Roadster Pickup I started with aftermarket '32 rails, just bare stamped rails, and made everything except the front '32 crossmember, that I narrowed radically, from scratch. It was a lot of work, but very rewarding. I would not recommend building your on frame unless you have access to the materials (tubing, pipe and plate) and the tools (cutting torch, welder, grinder, drill press, jack stands, clamps, engine hoist, etc.).

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hey guys i am doing a rod project and am throwing around the idea of building a frame wiht the suicide springer front end, and i was just wondering if there is any frame that you guys like to use? or just build one?
If your doing a suicide front end just build it.... You can do a simple t-bucket style frame.. One of the easies frames there is to build and can just about build any body you want on it... Build it you will be way ahead of the game...
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Yep. just build a jig of some sort, and clamp the rail so it doesent warp..

2x3 or 2x4 11 ga will be sufficent
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I do have those tools not a plasma but a torch set and i have some weding skills. i am use a old touring tub and old model t cowl, i want that old looking style and i think building it will be the best way. what kind of jig should i build? i was thinking like out of 2x4 wood and maybe some 4x4s? any ideas? and this is my fist rod so this is all knew still. thanks again guys!
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I do have those tools not a plasma but a torch set and i have some weding skills. i am use a old touring tub and old model t cowl, i want that old looking style and i think building it will be the best way. what kind of jig should i build? i was thinking like out of 2x4 wood and maybe some 4x4s? any ideas? and this is my fist rod so this is all knew still. thanks again guys!
You don't need a jig to build a t-style frame... But if you do want to build a jig.. This is a cheap one I built when I did my 41 willys frame..It worked out great and I still have it picked up if I ever want to do another one..

Making A Willys Frame !!!!!!!!

It may give you some idea's.. Good luck..
There's a lot of people here to help if needed..Take your time and it will all work out..
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i am sure as this project goes on i will be asking alot more questions haha and i like that idea for a jig. alot more light weight and cheaper then what i was thinking about haha and i will try tonight to get some pictures of the body up on here also so you guys can see what i am working with
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t bucket plans

There is a lot of t bucket info in the WIKI, here one titled free t bucket plans, I built a couple chassis using the CCr plans for a bucket. You migh want to add a few inches for a tub body. check new interiors build of his c cab.
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My jig is a bit diffrent than Randy's. It just holds the peices square and tight for welding. still need flipped ( and another set of holes ) for the opposite side.. I did my first frame without a jig and it got a bit off and, altho it could have been saved, it was easier to start over. I also built it to the correct dimensions.. The yellow rustoleum brightens things up for welding. the orange blocks were for effect. they don't do much

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You can build a frame without a jig.. I have done a few on the ground... Just have to watch it as your welding things up.. and skip around when welding...Here's a new build I'm doing with no jig..

Building A Homemade C-cab !!!
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I keep a box of horse shoe nails in my welding box, if things start to warp when tacking. Cut the weld and use the miniature wedge to realign things and you can nip off the extra part and weld over them.
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thats a good idea, stuff does tend to wrap on me haha a
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