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What would you pay for these shift knobs??

Hey everyone,

I'm curious, what would you pay, or what would you think the going rate would be for these shift knobs? I'm thinking of having some knobs made up, these are hand made from what I think is the best glass blower in the world (too my eye at-least) He normally charges $125-175 per 2" marble. I would need to drill the hole and hopefully not break it, add an insert and re-sell it with ebay fee's. Keep in mind ebay fee's run about 15%

Realistically do you think they would sell for?? Right now money is tight and I'm not sure if I should move forward on the idea.
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nuthing!!! no sales here!!! have them made first!! Then post them .
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I guess you don't understand the question. I WONT BE SELLING THEM HERE or posting links, before I fork out $2000 on some glass shift knobs I would like to know if they would sell.

But thanks for the vote of confidence.
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So now you marketing a product !!! Before production !!
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Marketing? Seriously? I'm not trying to sell anything, I'm trying to gauge interest. Maybe you need to relax and take people for face value.

PS. I'm not going to reply to any more of your drama. If you won't take it for face value fine. I understand a lot of people on the web are over sensitive and once they get an idea in their head that's it. I wont try and convince you otherwise. Thanks for your input.

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I dont see them selling all that well. If you bought one and materials and labor all said and done paying 200 you would have to sell it for more than that for profit. If I did all of that I would want 300 and there is no way I would be able to sell one for that. I would only do it as a one off per person deal not a full quantity set. I used to fiberglass one off CAI systems but starting my own small specialty shop per say profit was never enough to think about or want to take it further. In my case they were custom application based so it was alot of work with each one so I charged not crazy amount but a lil more then what you could buy with a DIY kit. I also did other items as well but even just a few jobs on the table in a two week time period was very consuming with daily things.

Plus you would be up against alot of tough competition. Alot of major aftermarket suppliers and talented hobbyists like GugerArt. I personally wouldnt buy one if you made it because they are to feminine and wouldlook gay in any of my autos since it would be the only weird colorful object sticking out like a sore thumb. Might make an appeal to women but even they would more then likely pick something else that has tinkerbell on it or is pink in some way.

Not trying to be offensive just my opinion on it.
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Thanks itsjusti,

Exactly what i'm looking for. I think a lot of people would love or hate them. Personally I would love to have one but at the price point I personally can't afford one.

Kind or reminds me of a good friend of mine, he makes museum quality reproductions of black powder rifles. They cost from $15k-25k someone once asked him how many do you have? He said none, I cant afford my rifles LOL.
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I think there would be a small market that would be price dependent. You will get guys who will say gee that's pretty cool, but is it $150 cool? Probably not. $25 cool? Yeah probably. Hope it helps.
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Lol thats good but would suck at the same time.
For the shifters the auto would definitely have to be themed in a way and the shifter being one of the finishing touch details. But I agree I wouldnt pay that much for a shifter of any kind. It would have to have other uses within the auto....at least 3.
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A glass BLOWER???

These are hollow?

How are you going to drill and insert and etc into a HOLLOW glass ball? Glass blowing is literally taking a ball of molten glass and BLOWING air in to make the rounded shape you want

Than - in terms of the business aspects.....

For a business model to succeed, you need to ensure that you are running a 40% minimum profit This does NOT mean that if you pay $100 for one, you sell it at $140.00. It means that - of every dollar income, 40% is profit AFTER ALL COSTS!

So, if you pay $100 each, and there are 15% e-bay fees, and the cost of shipping of the product to your door prior to sale, and then there is the cost of the boxes and wrapping for re-shipping, etc - so lets say you can sell at $200. That means that the total of all the above costs cannot be over $120.00. But at a $200 sale price, your flea-bay cost will be $30, so you are already at $130 BEFORE adding in the shipping to you, the boxing, etc. So this is now going to have to be selling at $250 each to make it work

What will be your costs per 100 units (how many will be broken in the drilling and insertion of threads phase?)

Assume that you will be competing against some overseas supplier who will be selling things that could be of equal quality (or maybe they are just junk) but they LOOK the same on the web, and are selling at $29.95.

Assume you can find a way to make it work

What are the tax implications?

Can you declare that 10% of your house is now "the business" and write off 10% of the total house expenses against the biz?

Will you be incorporated as an LLC (or better yet, an LLP) or will you carry PERSONAL liability should anything go wrong

A bit to chew on - from one who has been there, done that, got the t-shirt and it was 2 sizes too small!

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Its not a hollow glass ball, they are sold as art glass marbles, they are made of Pyrex.

We have been in business out of our house for about 7 years now. You can take a % of the house off on the business based on the square footage used. We have a very good tax person.

Basically these would be for show cars. I have not seen any $29.95 shift knobs that look like these. IMO its like comparing a Earl Scheib paint job to an artist. Opinions are welcomed. I'm looking at this from a business point of view. Keep in mind there are people in the world that pay $200 for screen printed designer tee-shirts
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there are people in the world that pay $200 for screen printed designer tee-shirts
Not trying to be a smart#ss, but you may be on the wrong forum for that crowd!!

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He normally charges $125-175 per 2" marble.



Forget the shift knobs- get in on that!!!! But seriously, there are people who will spend a hundred or more on a knob (burl wood, carbon fiber, titanium, etc.), but whether the hand made glass knobs are among them, who can say w/o trial marketing them? I wouldn't invest anything close to $2000. If you want to see if there's a market, make up two or three and see if they sell on eBay, and if they do, for what price.

I think lighting them from inside would look real good...
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Not trying to be a smart#ss, but you may be on the wrong forum for that crowd!!

Tom
X2, they aren't anything I would put in any of my cars, even at $25.
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their you go in business for 7 years. so you are not selling!
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