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Old 09-24-2006, 09:18 PM
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What's the cure for CANCER?

Im in the process of painting my '73 Scamp and it has alot of rust, mostly surface. Ive tried First step with no luck. I'm wondering whats the best method for stopping rust from breaking through the paint. Im not sure if I need to take the whole car down to bare metal and epoxy prime it, 3 coats of 2k and paint. Would you use Por 15, First Step, Rust Bullet? What would you do? Thanks in advance.

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Old 09-24-2006, 09:52 PM
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Im in the process of painting my '73 Scamp and it has alot of rust, mostly surface. Ive tried First step with no luck. I'm wondering whats the best method for stopping rust from breaking through the paint. Im not sure if I need to take the whole car down to bare metal and epoxy prime it, 3 coats of 2k and paint. Would you use Por 15, First Step, Rust Bullet? What would you do? Thanks in advance.
i do not have the cure but i shure would like to know myself, i got the same problem goin on. lol
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Have it media blasted, cut out any remaining rust, and replace with new metal. That's the only way to stop rust completely. Otherwise your just wasting your money.

Good luck
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Since radiation and chemotherapy are not viable options, then do like doctors, and operate. Remove it all surgically, and replace the damaged areas. If you don't do it that way, it will show it's ugly head again.

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If media blasting is not an option then what else can be done? Are all these rust converters just a band aid on a broken leg?
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If it's surface rust and you can't blast or chemical dip look up the Randy Ferguson tutorial on how to remove rust. It shows how to remove rust with navel jelly. I've done it and it works but is very slow.

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Old 09-25-2006, 10:33 AM
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"Are all these rust converters just a band aid on a broken leg?"

In short, as far as I am concerned, YES!

I know that there are going to be some that swear by this product or that one. The big question is this. Are you willing to bet all of that work and money on something that most will tell you, will not be a permanant repair? I have had to go in and repair many areas where the "snake oils" have been tried. They may slow it down, but it comes back. It's as simple as that.

Something else to consider is $$$$. Lets look at the cost of just the paint and materials. If you think that the prices are high now, just wait. The main players have raised their prices numerous times in the last year. That will not stop. If it cost you, lets say $1000 for materials this time. In a couple of years, when the rust comes back, it may cost you $1200+ for the same materials. Of course, you will also have the time and work involved in repairing it.

I just finished a car that they had tried one of those converters on, 2 years ago.

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This worked great for me on the surface rust found under an old vinyl top. No amount of sanding would get it to shiny metal but after finding this method I had it looking good in a weekend.
http://hotrodders.com/forum/secrets-...led-55679.html

Get rid of the rust, don't try to convert or encapsulate.
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As every-one has said, YOU MUST REMOVE IT!
My experience says rust and conversion do not belong in the same sentence.
Like you already know it is cancer. Would the doctor tell you "Well, we don't want to go to the trouble of removing your cancer, so, we're just going to "convert" it into... ...well... something else. And leave it under your skin."
I don't think so!
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