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What's the difference between flat black and matte black

I've seen both flat and matte black mentioned is there a difference?

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Good question. I always pictured matte black like all lumpy and Matty.
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Matte=Flat
Both are under 15 on the standard 60 degree gloss meter.

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shine a bright flash light at a flat black panel.....can't see the lamp reflected in the paint

shine the flashlight at a matte black panel.....you can the lamp reflection a little, fuzzy but visible....to me it's fair to call it "semi-flat" black

gloss black....lamp is very visible in the reflection

flat black=your gas bbq
matte black=a 35mm camera body
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Flat black has less shine..........I think
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I've seen both flat and matte black mentioned is there a difference?




You say Matte if your from France, Flat black if your USA
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You say Matte if your from France, Flat black if your USA
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I learned 2 things today. Now what is a flying wop?
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I learned 2 things today. Now what is a flying wop?
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I'll be damned. I learned TWO things today.
Actually I remember hearing WOP as a slur back in the 70's, but didn't know what it meant.
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"You say Matte if your from France, Flat black if your USA"

it's also called 'jet black' in the USA, the black-out in front of the windshield is completely flat, non reflective black.
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Matte is somewhere between flat and gloss. Flat has no shine. Matte can come in levels of flat/shine. I generally buy Dupont paint and don't buy PPG. This comes form the simple fact that it saves me duplicate chemicals while both paints are good.

I am painting the underside of a car now. I thought I wanted matte. At the Dupont store they had gloss, flat or matte clear coat. You could mix variations to get different variations of flat/gloss but the guy at the Dupont store had no clue what I was talking about. I bought the matte clear coat and it was too shiny for what I was looking for.

I went to the PPG store and he had a flat which would go over the Dupont paint. It was exactly what I was looking for but it was considered flat (I had to play with it some to see what I wanted).

HOWEVER, the PPG mix also had a chart to mix flat/clear in ratios to get different levels of matte.

NOW I will tell you when you do a do base/clear flat....it has just a touch more shine then say a flat black can of rustoleum. And it was exactly what I was looking for.


This is matte:

http://www.rc-tech.net/pantera1/paint1/hood1.jpg



The rest of this is Flat:

http://www.rc-tech.net/pantera1/paint1/paint.htm
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