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Assuming everything else is equal, is wheelhop worse when a tire spins (ie narrow stock tire) or when you have a wider tire with better grip?

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I think this is in the wrong section....suspension maybe?
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If the tire's spinning you shouldn't have any hop.

Moving to the suspension forum.
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Out of round tire, separation of the belt on a tire, bad worn out leaf springs, all the above?
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Assuming everything else is equal, is wheelhop worse when a tire spins (ie narrow stock tire) or when you have a wider tire with better grip?
It's all bad no matter. Get a set of traction bars if your having problems or, keep your foot out of it before you cause real damage to your axle or suspension.
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Assuming everything else is equal, is wheelhop worse when a tire spins (ie narrow stock tire) or when you have a wider tire with better grip?
If the tire immediately spins and there is a total loss of traction, the wheel hop either will not occur or will be slight. It's when the traction is good enough that the pinion can climb the ring gear- causing the spring to wrap up in a "S" shape until the spring overcomes the resistance and snaps back into its normal shape- that wheel hop will ruin traction and even break driveline and suspension parts.
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if it just spins it will not wheelhop, but if it wheelhops it looses traction and spins...

What's worse... a bigger, stickier tire will hop harder and grab harder causing more damage, unless you get to the point where it's big and soft and absorbing a lot of energy, but then typically it won't hop.

either way, it's usually a sign that something is loose or broken, and will typically break things much worse, so it needs to be dealt with.
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I was just curious because Im thinking of keeping stock skinny tires on for a total sleeper look, but wondering what will happen if I get on it knowing I'd get wheelspin. So I was wondering how wheel hop would play out.
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again, you shouldn't get wheel hop if everything is working correctly...
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When I have had wheel hop, it was when the tire was spinning, then started gaining traction when it started to hop. I have had it on coil spring and leaf spring cars with fairly wide tires.

Back to the last question, If you are running a skinny tire, you will lessen the chances of having wheel hop.
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I was just curious because Im thinking of keeping stock skinny tires on for a total sleeper look, but wondering what will happen if I get on it knowing I'd get wheelspin. So I was wondering how wheel hop would play out.
What kind of car we talking about?
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When I have had wheel hop, it was when the tire was spinning, then started gaining traction when it started to hop. I have had it on coil spring and leaf spring cars with fairly wide tires.

Back to the last question, If you are running a skinny tire, you will lessen the chances of having wheel hop.

air shocks?
that's what usually did it....
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air shocks, worn out/too soft bushings, loose stuff, bent stuff, soft IRS with too much power (I've had a bad case when I put a positive dispacment blower on a G35 that just had hopeless wheel hop after that)...

Generally, like I already said, something is wrong allowing something to move in a direction it shouldn't to cause wheel hop...
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I was just curious because Im thinking of keeping stock skinny tires on for a total sleeper look, but wondering what will happen if I get on it knowing I'd get wheelspin. So I was wondering how wheel hop would play out.
Only one way to find out, mash on it! If the wheels hop, get some traction bars or some links that connect to the frame that aren't so noticeable. If they spin without wheel hop your wasting power to the ground. Sleepers don't win smoking tires.
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