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Old 02-02-2011, 06:33 AM
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where can I find pics of a 65 wagon tailgate assembly????

I inherieted a half finished 65 wagon that five people had worked on ,among other things ,I think the tailgate is missing the window tracks...I was told (by the guy that put it together) it didnt come with them but there are two holes on each side for them and all that holds the glass in is the regulator so the glass flops around. Plus in all the years I been doing this stuff ,I've never seen a ny glass that moved without a track,,,never,but anything is possible it sure dont seem right though...Does anyone know for sure or mabee guide me to a pic of a tailgate assembly....
I'm also having a devil of a time finding a weatherstrip for the gate and had to go with a suburban seal that I had to cut up to make fit ,I'd sure like one made for the car.

Dont you just HATE putting something together that was a party pass around??? I just couldnt say no to the guy he spent so much and got so little but it sure has been a PITA...

If anyone is tearing a car down PLEASE bag and tag everything as if someone else is going to be puting it back together ......someone just might...
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what kind of car ?

I have a shelf about 6 feet wide with old manuals a lot of the designs were similar for the corporate body shells,
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A good way to find the scematics is in some of those old wagons is your local library. There are some large hard cover manuals (as big as an encyclopedia) that cover multiple years of vehicles. They are your best bet unless you can find a Chiltons or Haynes repair manual for your year car.
Another sugestion is to find any wagon tailgate assembly schematic even if its not your exact year just to see the basic dynamics of how it works.
You would be suprised just how simple these are designed.
If you dont want to bother with original design, there are many alternatives such as remote actuators that pop the door for you...These can work beautifully if done right.
Hope this helps...

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Old 02-02-2011, 08:05 AM
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DBM, what is the make and model of this "65 wagon"? Is it a 1965 Rollsroyce or is it the the sixty fifth wagon made or is it a little red wagon with 65 marbles in it, what the hell is it?

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Is that the model that has a pop out window crank handle on the outside of the tail gate? I think Chevy started that in 59.
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I'm sorry guys I must have still been half asleep and in a hurry this morning.
It's a 65 Impala wagon and some how the window tracks got lost and the gate got put back together without them, I'm 98% sure its supposed to have them ,theres even two holes on each side to mount them I cant see anything else they would be for...Theres a roll up crank on the outside....The library sounds like a good idea if I cant get anything on the internet. Unfortunetly the owner is a super nice guy thats been getting robbed by everyone that worked on it,I'm just trying to get him going but every time I get something almost done I run into more trouble ,pieces missing,parts not put on so everything has to taken back apart and redone.its everyones worst nightmare...but the guy bought the car new and he loves it so I have to get it right ,check every nut and bolt from front to back. Once this tailgate is done I'm done with it ,bumper to bumper I just refuse to put it back together without knowing for sure about the tracks even though it did work,it just didnt feel right....One of the guys that screwed it up said it wasnt made with window tracks,I told him if it WAS made like that it would be the first roll up window I've ever seen without tracks.Somebody lost them and someone else put it back together without them just to get it out of their hair...everything else is BS...........I hope I'm right .....
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One of the guys that screwed it up said it wasnt made with window tracks,I told him if it WAS made like that it would be the first roll up window I've ever seen without tracks.Somebody lost them and someone else put it back together without them just to get it out of their hair...everything else is BS...........I hope I'm right .....
My money is on you DBM. It's a wonder the rear glass hasn't been broken yet from opening and closing the tailgate. Those old 65's were good old street rod builders. Loved the square nova type body. Should have called then Novawagon's.
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Well ,I do understand how aggravating it can be restoring a car that has a limited supply of new parts...but on the other hand if its causing this much trouble for a pro to get finished ,how the heck can these guys expect the owner to do it...I spent half a day at the junk yards yesterday just finding odds and ends like trim clips,washer squirters etc...I got pretty lucky...
I found out something interesting too,ALL those GM tailgate window cranks are the same ,we bought a new crank from the dealer for a suburban and it was exactly the same with the exception of the mounting plate,all I had to do was swap it with the old one and bolt it on..
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Yes---it has tracks
The inside of these are pretty similar from 59+

If you are having troubles getting a 65 Chev gate
All of the other corp. models should be the same, or close enough to work.

I looked inside a 65 Pont wagon gate----damn near exacly what a 59 Chev gate looked like inside.

You need the tracks----window interlock (so you cannot open the gate with the glass up even slightly), and the big double window regulator
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Tailgate

Hey Man, Here is '59-'60 info. Starts at pg.14-89 and goes on with alot of info on adjustments, etc. on following pages. Maybe it will give you some help? Nolan
http://chevy.oldcarmanualproject.com.../59sms1490.htm
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'63-'67 typical tailgate hardware

How about this;http://www.tocmp.com/manuals/Chevy/5...age186_jpg.htm
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Ah Ha! B=tail gate window glass side run channel assemby.
Need to show the guy that screwed it up this picture. Even though it's marked 59-60 it still proves there's a channel for the rear windows.
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'63-'66 tailgate lock assembly

More;http://www.tocmp.com/manuals/Chevy/5...age188_jpg.htm
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I'm guessing you already looked, but the tracks aren't down in the bottom of the tailgate are they?
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Part sources

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&b...&aqi=&aql=&oq=

Ok, now you owe me. Wish you were closer to Louisiana, I'd get you to help me paint my truck. Nolan
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