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Old 11-01-2004, 10:39 AM
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Where do "crate" motors come from?

I'm kind of curious as to where the blocks come from that are used to build "crate" motors. I'm sure it depends on who you buy it from, but are they brand new blocks or rebuilt ones from scapyards? How do the casting numbers work, do they indicate a 04' build date if it's a new casting? Who actually makes the castings if it's not an original? Who makes the ones from Mexico I hear about?

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The term "crate engine" has been spun off the OEM manufacturers new crate engine. Now, anyone offering an assembled, or partially assembled engine will call it a crate engine.

OEM crate engines like Chevy, Ford or Mopar are new castings. GM Performance Parts engines, as GM Goodwrench engines blocks are all cast in Mexico. The Goodwrench engines are actually assembled in Mexico. I understand that the GM Performance Parts crate engines are assembled by Mercury Marine division. Typically the Chevy engines that went for Mercury Marine applications had all the HD parts in them.

It depends who you buy your crate engine from whether they use seasoned or new blocks, most I am aware of use seasoned blocks. You can even specify two or four bolt mains and high nickle alloy blocks.

When I hear "crate engine" I think of a new engine from an OEM source.

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It's called a crate motor because it's shipped in a crate.

GM's Universal 350 is made in Mexico, overall I hear good things about it.
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Re: Where do "crate" motors come from?

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I'm kind of curious as to where the blocks come from that are used to build "crate" motors. I'm sure it depends on who you buy it from, but are they brand new blocks or rebuilt ones from scapyards? How do the casting numbers work, do they indicate a 04' build date if it's a new casting? Who actually makes the castings if it's not an original? Who makes the ones from Mexico I hear about?

Just wondering
I always thought they came from the stork
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hey now play nice, this guy might be 30 for all we know.
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Re: Re: Where do "crate" motors come from?

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I always thought they came from the stork
That's where ''CRANE'' cams come from.HEHEHE

And "WEB"er carbs. tooooo.
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Dangit, I always get that confused
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The term "crate engine" has been spun off the OEM manufacturers new crate engine. Now, anyone offering an assembled, or partially assembled engine will call it a crate engine.

OEM crate engines like Chevy, Ford or Mopar are new castings. GM Performance Parts engines, as GM Goodwrench engines blocks are all cast in Mexico. The Goodwrench engines are actually assembled in Mexico. I understand that the GM Performance Parts crate engines are assembled by Mercury Marine division. Typically the Chevy engines that went for Mercury Marine applications had all the HD parts in them.

It depends who you buy your crate engine from whether they use seasoned or new blocks, most I am aware of use seasoned blocks. You can even specify two or four bolt mains and high nickle alloy blocks.

When I hear "crate engine" I think of a new engine from an OEM source.

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Which brings up a point; Which is more American, a Chevy that is built in Mexico, A Ford that is built in Canada or a Honda that is built in Lexington Kentucky?
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Which brings up a point; Which is more American, a Chevy that is built in Mexico, A Ford that is built in Canada or a Honda that is built in Lexington Kentucky?
The "least" American is the Honda built in Kentucky, because the profits go offshore.

But I prefer the cars that were built back when American made was American made.

WOW, the way I skirted your real question, .......... I should be a politician. HEHEHE
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you left out that some of the Dodges are built in Mexico.
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The reason I asked this "stupid" question is because the DMV in my state requires a vin number and a copy of the registration from the donor car the motor block came from and a bill of sale from the manufacturer/rebuilder even if I use a "crate" motor. They require these documents to prove ownership and the parts are not stolen. This would apply to home built and kit cars like what I am building. I would think the odds of getting a vin number and copy of the donor car registration from a short block from PAW or other souce would be pretty slim. Maybe Santa Clause or the Easter Bunny will drop off a title for me so I can get plates for my car when it's done. Otherwise, I could end up with a very large lawn decoration.
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When I was a kid I was told crate motors came from a stork.
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