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Old 02-03-2003, 11:18 AM
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talk about an accident? do what?

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Old 02-03-2003, 11:33 AM
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musle cars are obese dinosaur relics of an age gone by. eyesores rusting in fields, with obsolete engines. they burn oil and an excessive amount of fuel to drag their behemoth weight. they are inefficient outdated technological relics of a bygone era. however the pure fun factor of running a huge engine in a behemoth car that noone has seen in ages cant be beat. as long as people have a sense of style these old cars will never go away.

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Old 02-03-2003, 11:48 AM
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behemoth weight? You don't pay attn. well. A muscle car is a smaller body car with a big block shoved in it. My GTO with me in it and the original engine weighs the same as a 92 dodge stealth. My car has a V-8 pontiac 400, the stealth has a 6 cyl. and they still weigh very close to the same. Oh, and sorry bud, but you can't be a rodder and a conservationist.... Pick one and we will alert green peace for you.
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The classic hot rod is, sad to say, bound to fade in history. It is just a fact of life that pop culture has a fixed history. People grow up with something that is wildly popular; get to early adulthood and drop that thing in favor of building a family, career, etc.; reach middle age where a) nostalgia hits and b)they can afford to slow down and afford the attempt to relive their childhood and reacquire that thing. It is at this point that "old " stuff becomes relly popular but that rises and wanes over a 15 year period 'til it loses it's nostalgic value and is forgotten. Hot rods are following that model exactly. Popualr in the 40s and 50s, waned in the 60s, hit bottom in the 70s and has become gigantic in the 00s. There is a very good reason we hot rodders are in general in our 50s and 60s. We are reliving our childhood. Sure there are exceptions but in general, this is how it goes.

These life/trends have abour a 60 year cycle.

Same thing is happening with toy trains. Marx and Lionel prices are through the roof with the same generation as hot rodders. However, do you ever see Red Rider or Hopalong Cassidy or Roy Rodgers stuff in huge demand. No, because that generation has passed.

Hot rods will decline and mini trucks and Volks rods will be the next hot items.

I saw a TV inerview of a guy that I think wrote a book documenting this theory as beign pretty accurate.
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Old 02-03-2003, 01:22 PM
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croz. gto, dodge stealth? hardly in the same leage are you reffering to a 69 gto with the smaller body? you'd haveto be, comparing a 2door gto to a stealth is more like comparing apples to oranges. the gto is an all steel(except the interior) compared to a mostly composite body car that has current technology to aid in weight reduction,furthermore the sheer bulk adds an endeering quality to a vehicle in my opinion. As for green peace they happen to be a bunch of tree huggin wackos in my opinion, what with their extremist views. I'll pick the gas guzzlin' oil burning tire frying car any day of the week over the save the whales. but to all good things must come an end and as willys said
"The classic hot rod is, sad to say, bound to fade in history"
it is just the way things go.
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[quote]Originally posted by 78 monte:
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Another thing is that most guys my age haven't got any credit and have very low income.So a 50s car or 60s muscle car is outta reach.Although considering the prices some pay for stereos I take that back. </strong><hr></blockquote>


Im 20...in college...and I am buying a 1953 Ford w/ the original flathead v8 (runs and drives) for $2500. I may put another $2k into it initially, and then I will have a $4500 car. Thats like 1 year of work at a part time job. You just have to be really into cars to wanna do it. I think most people think to build one of these cars you have to build it from a hunk of scrap metal. This is gonna be my first hot rod / classic car, and I made sure that it runs, stops, no major damage etc. I dont wanna get in to deep my first time.
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All right you young whipper snappers, I'm "drawing" Social Security and will start Medicare soon, but the flame is far from out!! My favorite bumper sticker is "I may be getting older, but I refuse to grow up!!". Also, if you think about it, we Hot Rodders were on the cutting edge of resource conservation. That's why my license plate is RECYCLE 1, 2, 3, etc. We may burn a little more petrol than some, but just think of how much energy and other recourses we save by continuing the life span of these old cars. I have put well over a million miles on 25 + year old car/trucks and am shooting to double that. 54 Hunter, welcome to the club. What sort of late model junk could you get for $2500 dollars and just think, your car will appreciate as it gets older unless you total it. And Willis 36 has hit the nail on the head. If you want to know what is/will be hot, go back about 25 years and you got it, late 70's!! I have a son and 2 grand sons and my son is the care taker of my two 36 Ford rods for the grand sons. Course they may be worn out by the time I'm done with them!!! Sorry Neil and Stonedpuppy. For all you other young guns out there, keep the flame burning. I don't give up on the ricers, but I sort of feel sorry for them cause so much of the good stuff is out of their reach. A couple of clubs in the area welcome them to the cruise in and they pick up trophies for their class and the have the same pride in that piece of junk just like we do in our Good Old American and some European iron.

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Old 02-03-2003, 04:34 PM
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HEY: You guys see my point. How many younger guys are going to be able to afford a 1934 Ford streetrod for $ 35,000.00 to 50,000.00?? There are a lot a really nice cars out there that were built with big $$bucks by guys my age ( 59) that had jobs in auto industry making $ 35.00 per hour. At Street Rod Nationals in Louisville there were 12,000 car.. average age of owners was in mid to high 50's...average cost of some of those cars was in the $ 30's to 50's. How many guys can cough off those kind of bucks, raise kids, buy house??? I bet not many???
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I'm going on to get an education so I can afford things like that... it'd be nice to have a couple muscle cars kicken around
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Nothing lasts forever. Not even our hotrods. Hot rod'em if you got'em.
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Wow, you guys are so right. Im actually a ricer convert. I had a honda civic that I fixed up, but someone ran a stop sign and it was totalled. Ive always been into older hot rods, but never thought they were within my reach. After I actually researched it a bit, I realized this is something that almost anyone can do. I can just imagine 30-35 years from now, my generation are going to be clamoring for the '94 Civic hatchback they had when they were a kid. LOL...the future is gonna be a trip.
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38 I think you need to hear my sales pitch...

Dear loyal and valued hotrodders... by including me in your will you not only insure that your investment of blood, sweat and tears goes to someone who will love, enjoy and care for it as much as you do but you will also be insuring that your car will be passed on for another generation or two after me... You see my dear friends your hotrod can last forever... The stonehendge still stands, the pyramids are still here, and even atlantis covered in water is here to stay... If you put your car to me through your will when you pass on I will make sure your car is made to last like all those great landmarks I just told you about also like those landmarks this offer NEVER I repeat NEVER EXPIRES WHAT A DEAL!!! ... Remember this service comes at NO FEE!!! All you have to do is include me in your will to take your loved and cherished automobile and I will make sure it continues to make america proud for generations to come... IN FACT did you know that many other people will take your car BUT AT A COST!! Often these cars are sold off or crushed as scrap!!!! WITH ME YOUR CARS ARE GOING TO BE KEPT SAFE AND WELL AT I REPEAT NO COST WHEN YOU PASS ON.... Please give me a call and remember

- Your car will be passed on for generations for americans to love for years to come
- I will keep your autmobile in top shape
- This service comes at NO COST!!
- This offer will NEVER expire!!

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Old 02-03-2003, 11:51 PM
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I believe Charlton Heston said it best...

"From my cold dead hands!"



(Oh yeah, and REPENT AND THOU SHALL BE SAVED!)
(He made a good Moses too!)


Rock on and God bless!


P.S. Oh and how could I forget that Soylent Green is made of people & Get your stinking paws off me you da** dirty ape!
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well im 19 and ive been into cars since i was a snot nosed little kid because when you take a younger sibling or neighbor hood kid to a race event or car show when they are young chances are high they will get bitten by the bug!
my girlfriend who six months ago hated and i quote"all those rusty old junkers you and your friends work on!" well i talked her into going to a prostock door slammer event here a while back and when she got close to the cars it was the normal michelle but when that rumblin bbc fired up she was as wild eyed as i was even though i own a few cars/trucks that are loud it sometimes takes an open headered beast to get 'em now i cant keep her out of the garage with me i think i have created a monster and i love it!!!!!
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HEY STONED: You got to me, my keys are in the mail. Any time you see a rodded 1938 Lafayette see if the key fits. Thanks for you kindly offer...DAVE
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