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Old 07-16-2007, 06:56 AM
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Where were the frame #'s on a 32 Ford rail?

I pulled the body yesterday and I am going to use paint stripper instead of grinding or sanding, to try to find one. I was told by lots of people that there should be 3 on the drivers top rail, but one said passenger side.

One is supposed to be up front, but that area is all messed up, one is midpoint? and one "near the kick".

I was told there is a * plus 18, and a space, then more numbers? How light or heavy of a stamp?

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The top photo shows where the number should be ... behind the firewall foot.
The second photo shows where the three firewall bolts are in relation to the frame.

The number will be

STAR 18 - Vin number STAR

The numbers were stamped by hand 75 years ago and most I have seen are NOT real straight and level.

Go here for the VIN numbers ...

http://www.vanpeltsales.com/FH_web/f...ialnumbers.htm
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Go HERE and scroll down for info you seek.

The Ford serial numbers should be on the drivers side top rail just in front of where the firewall mounts.

I checked the photos you posted of your frame. The front section of your frame from the trans cross member forward appears to be from another source and added to the original frame. If this is correct; the Ford serial numbers will no longer be found on the portion of the frame as it has been replaced.

Check out the photo that Deuce posted.

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Thanks guys; I found only the mid point stamp right at the outer edge. Makes no sense to me at all... The star is not faked and the first 4 numbers look genuine and are very legible with no space between the * and 4, but it says: *4783-.

Well, I am thinking I should sell this rolling chassis for somone building a ratrod? Someone may like the idea that it already has Mustang II, a Ford rear, boxed, and set up for Chevy motor & trans.

New rails are about $850? Sound like a good idea to start with these? or wait for a bare Ford frame with good numbers?

My son's making room in the shop for the body; plenty to do there before I need a frame
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New rails are about $850? Sound like a good idea to start with these? or wait for a bare Ford frame with good numbers?

My son's making room in the shop for the body; plenty to do there before I need a frame




I always use original 32 Ford frames ... but that is because I have a few to choose from. The reproduction rails are very good and look like the BEST way to you for your deal and just sell the old stuff.

I would build the frame first ... and then set the body to it. Working on a body that is not bolted down securely can lead to fit issues and other problems.

I am so GLAD you are trying to SAVE this old coupe.
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Are you planning on " FENDERS " or ... " No FENDERS " ??

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I have a 32 frame that is an original in my shop right now. The front set of numbers is where Deuce shows, the second set, at midpoint is about 54" back from the first body mount hole, and has the star / 5 digit serial # / star.

The forward serial # has the star/-18 5 digit serial #/ star.

The frame in my shop doesn't have the 3rd set, but I believe that it was on the crossmember.

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Thanks for the offer and showing some interest.

Hey Mikey!....I was just typing a long question about wondering if the had 2 different layouts! Your post now proves we have a legit number! Yea!

We were just out cleaning the frame for some ebay pics, and I showed my son what little I found for numbers. He's got eyes like I had at 15 yrs old

After your post we went out with a 6" magnifier and now we see a tiny bit of the 18 plus a -. We also came to agreement on the last digit by comparing front to back #'s. You guys rock

Here's the post I WAS doing...
Sorry to make a big deal out of this, but we don't need a title or inspection here, IF we a valid ID number. If we don't have a valid number, then the car has to go through a "impossible to pass" "composite inspection". So, I don't dare "make up" a 32 type number in case that number shows up on another car in the US data base! Long story but we have numbers now, but not the 18- deal. Is that how ford marked these frames???

edit: When cleaning the frame, I showed my son what I thought were traces of the front number & the star at the end. That's the one that shows traces of the 18- but the front star is gone from a grinder.

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I'll get a picture and post it here this evening.

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Someone told me once that the number was also stamped into the crossmember where the rear spring mounts. Might be bogus info though.
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