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Old 02-25-2003, 09:18 AM
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To start with great site. So here it goes. It took me over 3 years to build my 454. Planning, researching and saving and most important putting up with my better half. Mostly I did myself. From bottom to top. The lower block line honed, the crank knifed edged and counter weights polished. special bearings.(rods), beams polished and peened, plus all exact to same lenght, plus large end cut to total roundness. and measured for exact oil clearance. Plus crank was indexed. Added a windage pan plus crank scraper, file fitted. Block square decked to my piston height. torque plated to exact piston clearance. All water and oil ports deburred. Lifter valley debured and polished plus a lifter valley pan. The pistons plazminized and friction free sides.the molley rings file fited to each cyl, whyll torque plate on. The cyl heads true decked to same thickness, ccd to the same. swirl polished valves. ports and pockets polished and gasket matched. A roller cam. Large tube headers and stainless exh. Acording to the newest dyno version i have 550 hp and 551 torque. Does this sound crazey or what? I ran some other engine tests. I got more out of them, than what i did. It just makes me sick. Any advise, was it worth it? I almost lost the best lady for me over this. Theres more engine than that isnt there? Really depressed, Thanks <img src="confused.gif" border="0">

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Old 02-25-2003, 09:38 AM
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Sounds like to me a challenging time between your motor and your lady. Well from my point of view u still have your lady and that's a good thing. and your motor sounds like a pretty good deal to me. Because i built my big block 396 from scratch and with all machine work plus parts and shipping to Hawaii my finished engine was $4000.00 . But it's and RV engine. and my desktop dyno said 385 HP at 5000 RPM and 460 ft lbs at 3500 RPM which is what i wanted. I think when it comes to an engine that we built we always expect a little more then what we get. all in all i think it was worth it. think of this way it could have been worse.
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i agree you have your woman and a bad *** motor what more can you ask for
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Old 02-25-2003, 09:56 AM
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[quote]Originally posted by bigheadedforddriver:
<strong>i agree you have your woman and a bad *** motor what more can you ask for</strong><hr></blockquote>

800 ponies!!!
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Old 02-25-2003, 10:01 AM
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[quote]Originally posted by crazy larry:
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800 ponies!!!</strong><hr></blockquote>

... and 2 women.
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Gees man, 550 horsepower! Wow, that motor in lets say a 80 Cutlass would beat, no pummell, 99.9% of the auto's out there on the street! Whats your alternative...living in a tent and driving a Pinto because of support etc? I think you did great. Heck, when my 403 in my 81 Cutty started loosing oil pressure and smoking after 13 years of great service, I asked the misses for money for a new engine. You guess it, she accused me of not caring about her or the kids and maybe I should get rid of my "junk Cutty" and get a reasonable auto like a Tercel etc! After much effort, I ended up getting a "undesireable 455 (smog version) because it was cheap. I also cut every corner possible to get it running. No line boring or torque plate honing etc. etc. I had to use the "terrible J heads" but I did home port them. I bet the motor dosen't have anything over 325 horsepower but it does run very nicely and I'm happy with it. But it sure was horrible putting up with the wife. She still complains about the car and as a matter of fact, I got so mad at her the other day that I put her over my knees and pulled her pants down to give her a spanking and promptly forgot what I was mad at her about! Try it man...it helps! Good luck
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550 HP sounds pretty good. How is the streetability? If you have no problems driving it every day I'd say you did pretty good.

A lot of the modifications you mentioned are worth some power but not a lot. However, they will help your engine last a long time which is worth making all the power in the world; if it won't last, then you really did waste your money
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no you did not waste any money, you spent it where it really counts, ill bet that your engine would survive the 24 hours of daytona and ask for seconds. any tom dick and harry can build a 550 hp big block, just add dome pistons, BIG mechanical roller cam and some square port merlin heads... but without the host of mods you have made it will never last, h#ll you could even give the keys to your teenage son and not worry about the engine throwing a rod. i say you bought piece of mind and an engien that wont blow up and cause Real problems with your better half...
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Old 02-25-2003, 05:13 PM
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Well, 550 is nothing to sneeze at, but I would bet it is close. One thing you did not mention is the type of heads. I think with aftermarket pieces you could definately see more power. That is the key to most any engine combo in my opinion. Sounds like you were very thourough and will have a strong runner for years to come.

Dont be disappointed. If you truely have 550 HP it will be very impressive. There are alot of "500HP" engines out there that are not even close.

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Old 02-26-2003, 05:02 AM
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The cld heads are the early closed chambered,(107cc). It really does feel strong,I havent got on it yet, Its all new still. Plus i need to change the rear ratio. When i did the research, i was lead to believe that less friction, lowers heat and builds more hps. So thats how I based the build. So I really expected to see a big increase. I know while just sitting still a quick stomp to the floor it jumps to 4000 really fast. So maybe thats the low friction at work. Im going to try to get my lady involved with the car. Hopefully. I apreciate your imputs.
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Old 02-26-2003, 01:27 PM
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TurboS10 is 100% right ... most 500HP engines really make about 400 if they're lucky. The real question about wasting $$ though is.....

ARE YOU HAVING FUN!!!! <img src="graemlins/evil.gif" border="0" alt="[evil]" />
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