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Old 02-25-2007, 04:35 AM
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Old 02-25-2007, 06:22 AM
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I have always found that people that are full of crap, most of the time, just have a hard time making friends and are doing that so you will like them......Too bad it generally has the opposite effect.
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Originally Posted by Classix_Lover
...whenever I see him, I'm going to make fun of him...
CL,

You might even consider putting him on your "ignore list"...just like we can do here at HR.Com with posters who are full of themselves. That prevents you from possibly being sucked down to this guy's level of conversation and attitude. Sometimes laughter and ridicule demeans YOU as much as it might demean the target of your barbs. Someone might ask, "Well aren't you just trying to point out your own superiority by making fun of another person or pointing out their flaws."

You've got plenty going for you CL that you would never need to ride on the shoulders of ridicule. So my point here is aimed more at the "general" audience rather than you specifically.

My theory is, I'm less informed than 9 out of 10 rodders in this world. And if I do stumble on that ONE rodder who's less informed than me...why would I want to blow my precious time talking with him/her...much less ridiculing them or pointing out their ignorance.

If a person wants to learn, they should ALWAYS be the dumbest kid in their class...that is, they should ALWAYS be hanging around rodders who are smarter, more experienced, more innovative, and more savy. I know I'm the dumbest in MY class...and I intend to keep it that way.

The interesting thing is, the truly smart, experienced, innovative and savy rodders I know rarely, if ever, feel the need to verbalize their superiority or put down others, even when they are inanely stupid. The really good ones simply go on about their lives, building incredible cars and working wonders with their hands and minds. It speaks volumes over laughter and ridicule.
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Well said Cboy! I tend to agree, all you have to do is stay out of their path. They will step in it themselves multiple times before they get a clue. I went to electronics school, but there were a few of us that were into cars and were backyard types. Well there was this one kid who thought he knew everything about cars -he drove a 80's celebrity LOL. He said you were supposed to floor a EFI car and make it rev up when you start it. Well he's the only I know that ever blew up an iron duke 2.5L. Then he did the same thing to the 90's cavalier that replaced it. And now he's blown his trans axle out in his Volvo trying to get it unstuck (my guess is he didn't try rocking but just mashed the gas pedal). Maybe one of these days he'll come around, but I just laugh and stay clear of him.
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The general attitude (young guy knows a lot more than any of the older guys) is not limited to fixing cars. I've worked in the military and on various projects in the computer and telecom industry for nearly 30 years and have picked up degrees and quite a bit of technical knowledge over the years. However, its not unusual for me to run into a young kid in a in computer programming class who does not believe that I would ever be able to understand the complicated things he's learning.

I think some of the young folks attitudes about high tech are even more biased than they are with cars, since they seldom run into a person in his/her 50's who has some experience working with technology. They all think we should be like their Mom and Dad, who usually don't do much more than turn a computer (or car) on and use it.

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CL,

You might even consider putting him on your "ignore list"...just like we can do here at HR.Com with posters who are full of themselves. That prevents you from possibly being sucked down to this guy's level of conversation and attitude. Sometimes laughter and ridicule demeans YOU as much as it might demean the target of your barbs. Someone might ask, "Well aren't you just trying to point out your own superiority by making fun of another person or pointing out their flaws."

You've got plenty going for you CL that you would never need to ride on the shoulders of ridicule. So my point here is aimed more at the "general" audience rather than you specifically.

My theory is, I'm less informed than 9 out of 10 rodders in this world. And if I do stumble on that ONE rodder who's less informed than me...why would I want to blow my precious time talking with him/her...much less ridiculing them or pointing out their ignorance.

If a person wants to learn, they should ALWAYS be the dumbest kid in their class...that is, they should ALWAYS be hanging around rodders who are smarter, more experienced, more innovative, and more savy. I know I'm the dumbest in MY class...and I intend to keep it that way.

The interesting thing is, the truly smart, experienced, innovative and savy rodders I know rarely, if ever, feel the need to verbalize their superiority or put down others, even when they are inanely stupid. The really good ones simply go on about their lives, building incredible cars and working wonders with their hands and minds. It speaks volumes over laughter and ridicule.
Eh, I wasn't going to really ridicule him. I was however planning to do something else if he came over to my friends and tried that little stunt of "knowing more" than us. I would make a sarcastic comment to him about synthetic oil not breaking down which would probably make him walk off more than anything else. I don't blatantly ridicule someone, I do make fun of my friends alot but we joke around with each other. Humor is a big part of my life and most of the time I'm just messing around. Better than being a bunch of brain dead people taking everything so seriously. Then we'd wind up being like Mikey on the brownies.
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re:why-do-they-act-like

CL I understand how you feel. I'm in the last year of my apprenticeship and I see the same thing quite often. Fortunately I'm a little older now but when I was your age I might have done the same things you speak of or worse. The best way I have found to deal with someone like that is to just distance yourself when you can, keep yourself and other friends out of the line of fire when something does finally go wrong, don't end up a casualty of their ignorance. One day he will probably ask you why you don't like him, best answer I have come up with is," If I didn' like you I wouldn't speak to you", and then you walk away and don't speak. They usually get the hint...
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It's taken me years to learn to be more tolerant of those around me, and I'm still working on it. Know-it-alls are everywhere. I believe most of them are looking for attention and are just trying to fit in. I try not to comment on their ignorance on something, unless it is a co-worker and will directly affect something we are working on at the time. I try my best not to talk about people behind their back, even in jest, but they sure do make it hard at times.
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Doc here,

One of the BEST ways to shut down an "Apprentice Professor", and the easiest by far..is "Show me the FACTS that support your Theroy.."

THEN ask How Do You do that job ? ... What is the Procedure? ....and What Tools Do YOU use?...( it's easy to read TECH STATS off a web site..only HANDS ON Experience will answer that..)

When the facts don't materilize..everyone will get be clued in..

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