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10-04-2003, 06:28 AM
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why do they make 6 point and 12 point sockets
Any tool salesmen out there, can you help? I know why they make standard and metric sockets but why 6 and 12 point sockets? And what about those fancy special new sockets that remove stripped nuts or bolt heads, do they really work, are they like a stud remover? How many guys know what a hot wrench is?
Todd Rat Rods Rule! 
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10-04-2003, 07:17 AM
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Is this some kind of test for the newbies? and what about the 8 point socket ?
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10-04-2003, 09:28 AM
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6-points are for really good mechanics that don't waller up their bolt heads so the 6-points won't slip on. 12-points are for the rest of us who have to hammer the socket onto the bolt head 'cause it is so screwed up. They are also good for splitting so you help out the economy by replacing them often.
 I know what a hot wrench is. 
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10-04-2003, 12:30 PM
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6 point: Stronger than 12, Has more grip on the flats or a bolt/nut
Less likely to strip corners 12 point: Weaker than the six, grabs corners of bolt/nut. Easier to use in tight confines. better chance of stripping corners. If used on 12 point nuts/bolts then they are supiorer to 6 points.
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10-04-2003, 02:07 PM
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12-point is much easier to use, but 6-point can take a better beating.
 I love tools....but they are so expensive!!!  I wish I had more money to spend on tools. But then I can't spend it on the Vette.  78SilverShark
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10-04-2003, 02:18 PM
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I pretty much use 6 point for everything when I can. Like most said already I feel they are definately superior to a 12 point on most standard nuts and bolts. However 12 point are needed on many import applications as they use 12 point bolt heads. Even many late Model Ford driveshafts use 12 point bolt heads and require 12 point sockets or a 12 point wrench to remove. 12 points also serve other good purposes, as willys mentioned I have hammered quite a few 12 point 1/2" drive sockets onto old rusted beat-to-death lug nuts to remove them. Can't beat a 12 point for that.
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10-04-2003, 03:11 PM
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10-04-2003, 03:37 PM
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Whats a hot wrench?
In the red neck, chain fall in the big tree out back training ground I learned my wrenching in a hot wrench/burning torch was used on stubborn nuts or bolts and an important part of any repair. No way would we START working on a car/truck without gas or oxygen in the tanks. My Dad built a Big yard full of 57 Chevys and his favorite tool was his "hot wrench". Remember guys I live in OHIO. Lands of pot holes and much winter SALT. Until we bought a 3/4" drive socket set we used giant crescent wrenches, up to 24" to remove really large nuts on the PU trucks when the 4X2 front end or 4X4 front end needed work. Anyone that has worked on the big trucks knows exactly what I'm talking about. Thanks for your answers to the 6 and 12 point socket question guys!
Todd RAt Rods Rule!
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10-04-2003, 06:39 PM
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You got it! And a ball-peen hammer is a Ford wrench.
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10-05-2003, 12:30 AM
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Willys you kill me....reading half way though this I thought....Hot wrench..I know it as the big red wrench...and I thought...what's the other one....OH YEAH....the sledge is the Ford wrench.....I guess you haven't worked on enough F%&Ds...ball peen~GO BIGGER!!!!
OH and remember...cheap sockets are usually 12 point and impact sockets are 6 point...what do you need to be stronger?
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10-05-2003, 04:00 PM
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OK, what's this one: "BFH", anyone got any ideas? What would you use for a jack stand in and emergency and I do mean EMERGENCY!! Anyone else have any to share? Maybe some from the new guys too.
Todd Rat Rods Rule!
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10-05-2003, 04:05 PM
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I have used anything I could fit under the car laying around like cinder blocks and even stuck my spare tire under the car as a jack stand while I changed out a ruptured brake hose once.
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10-05-2003, 04:33 PM
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ok so we all agree that 6 points are stronger than 12 and most would probably say given the choice we should opt for the closed end over the open when we can to lessen the chances of rounding so why are combination wrenchs always 12 point on the closed end? i got here backwards as we were hodrodding nissan when it was spelt datsun and 10 mm brake wrenchs were hard to find we finally found a 6 point closed wrench and cut out a section to make one.
on the emergency jack stands firewood and rocks will work and i sure could use a hot wench right about now. oops you said wrench sorry. i probably need one of those too
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10-05-2003, 06:10 PM
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My mother in law!!!
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10-06-2003, 12:34 AM
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shrubbery, very small rocks....A WITCH????
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