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Old 01-30-2006, 07:49 PM
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I disagree with you, Centerline. I don't think people build Chevy engines because they are "easy" or "cheap", it's because they just like them. Let's face it, it is America's sweetheart, and has been since 1955.

The same way that rodders loved the flathead Ford, or the way bike builders love Harley engines.

I think that you've just got a bad case of hemirhoids, Centerline. It's okay that you love hemis, but let's face it, more people love Chevys.

You are in the minority.
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Old 01-30-2006, 07:55 PM
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Yeah, I've voiced my opinion on the same old same old, too.

I was determined to "do something different" for my old GMC.

Common sense was saying "350 TBI" (yawn) but the little devil on the other shoulder was yelling "MORE POWER".

It was a real toss-up between "donor" vehicles:
78 GMC C1500 powered by a 455 Olds (truck was originally a diesel ... and it HAD the hydroboost brakes that I want too!)
or
79 GMC C2500 powered by a 454 Chevy on propane. (Gotta love those distinctive short, wide valve covers and canted valves.)

I chose the 454 ... taking the "easy way out".
The 455 would have been MUCH more unique ... but I DID worry about interchangabilty, price, and availability of parts. Has anyone even seen headers for a 455 in a truck, for example?

Looking at HP/Torque curves on Edlbrock's site steered me towards the BBC, too. Not that 455's aren't torque monsters either, though!

Perhaps if my marriage survives this build, I'll think about the 455 next time.
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Old 01-30-2006, 08:23 PM
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Now everybody has gone and done it.....I feel abbynormal and want to get back inside of the box. I think I will pull my 289 out of my 66 Merc and stuff in a 350 Chevy, oh but wait there is more.....I am going to pull the 318 out of my 72 Dart and put in a stroker 406 Chevy. I think I want to be even less original and will put in 9" Ford rearends under both cars and Mustang II front suspensions. I am so glad I and seen the light, I really want to be back inside of the box. If you are not with us then you are against us, just chant after me.....SB Chevy is good, SB Chevy is good, aaaahh I think.....NO, don't think, bad, bad Ford and Chrysler....SB Chevy is good, SB Chevy is Good.......
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Old 01-30-2006, 10:47 PM
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I look at the SBC from a little different side. I have tried to maintain visual originality for my cars...all Chevys.

I do have to admit, however, that I'm getting a little tired of the "I have a 350 4-bolt" mentality. Maybe my next build will be a screaming 283.
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Old 01-31-2006, 12:15 AM
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I think the problem now is people don't "HotRod" their cars like they used to. It's all fit'n'finish, paint, wheels, stance, what kind of dead animal covers the seats, how big are the rotors? What shop did the work? NOT... What's under the hood? if there is a hood. Your absolutely right Centerline, no imagination under the hood, except for how am I gonna shape and paint the useless engine cover.

Hell, a sbc even made it into my GTO over the years, (though it's stayin') wait till you see my other V8 S10 (Northstar)

It comes down to what people want though, and if they want to track down Ardun heads, that's what they do, if they want a smallblock chevy, that's what they get, If your going to blame anyone Centerline, blame America, for it's love of the little mouse motor that helped make it.

P.S Belive me man, Chevy, unfortunatly, is trying to undo their Greatness!
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Love your attitude!

I too am looking for something different. I want to install a 318 into my '50 fleetline. Looking for someone who has done something similar.
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Old 02-03-2006, 06:39 PM
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I agree with Centerline and Nairb about the engine being boring. That's why I built mine without any concern for street manners at all, more people should do it. Every time I drive my Nova to town I get looks and stares from other guys with a small block Chevy and some of them just tell me outright that I'm nuts. It'll soon be even nastier than it already is when I get the tunnel ram with direct port nitrous plumbed. I don't care, at least it's not another 355", XE268, Air Gap, 600 Holley, Accel HEI, 4 bolt main, Double Hump wheezin' lump under the hood.

Mine's a ugly, rusted up, half primered 10 second b-a-d-a-s-s.


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Old 02-03-2006, 07:05 PM
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the other chevy

Does anyone remember the other chevy engine? Can you say BBC. look for this one to be driven to the shows this summer.
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The original motovation for putting a SBC in rods, they were shaped like a flathead where it counts. So you could put a 283 into a 34 Ford without cutting anything.

I'm living that dream!

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I don't "hate" Chevy's I've just grown to generally prefer Fords over the years. But when I go to car shows seeing one 350 TPI after another in slightly different rods I get bored pretty quickly. More than once I've thought "Why did they put a 350 in that old Ford (or Dodge, or whatever)." Since any number of rods are basically built from the ground up these days why the heck can't people build one to accomodate a different engine. If they can't be bothered with being a bit creative why did they build their own car to start with? I don't know. I do know that I don't care squat for Pontiacs. But if somebody tells be there's a hotrod whatever over there with a "SuperDuty" in it you can bet I'm going to have a look. Likewise a 340, a "wedge", Caddy 500, Toronado fwd drivetrain in something else, or whatever. Not because I like any of these things particularly, but because I know they are good stuff, a little out of the ordinary and well worth taking a gander at. And generally when you see such things shoehorned into a vehicle they never belonged in the owner isn't a boring person either.
If you take your 34 Ford (or whatever) with a 350 SBC to a car show and see 30 other "custom" cars just like it, it doesn't bother you? Sure would me.
For some reason the word "mediocre" comes to mind. I don't hate any brand of car or engine. Boring mediocrity, well, that I strongly dislike no matter what form it comes in. Doesn't even have to have anything to do with cars. Just me maybe.
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Old 02-03-2006, 09:20 PM
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If you take your 34 Ford (or whatever) with a 350 SBC to a car show and see 30 other "custom" cars just like it, it doesn't bother you? Sure would me.
For some reason the word "mediocre" comes to mind. I don't hate any brand of car or engine. Boring mediocrity, well, that I strongly dislike no matter what form it comes in. Doesn't even have to have anything to do with cars. Just me maybe.


Kinda makes me wish my 305 had a different "shape" to it to distinguish it from all those 350's out there. Show any tastefully built car powered by anything bigger than a B&S, and I'll bet you'll see the typical rodder start drooling. It really all has to do with styling and owner view. Coldknock's car trips my mind, but so does cboy's '32, and so does anything running an old Hemi. I'll be different and try to run a cubic inch challenged engine and back it with a GM 10 bolt. Even though I could crate 350 it and run a Ford 9" for almost the same (maybe even cheaper) as I plan on.


In a while, Chet.
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I like SBC's because of there proven reliability ( 1955-1998 for production vehicles ), but it is getting old in the street rod, 350/TH350, but that is because of the parts made to drop them the old coupes and sedans, why are they mostly made for the SBC, popularity but what made them so popular? parts availibility is there for them ( why many people go for them ) but that's because there popular. I could go with the flow and drop a 350 in my '51 Fleetline but I'm being diffrent and hopping up the 235/ powerglide that is arleady there.
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How would you like to work for Hot Rod Magazine. They been building the same motor for 50 years. Seems like they would have it right by now.
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Are there many performance products out there for a 318 sb? Can you guys direct me to any vendors that you know of? Websites? Thx.
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Are there many performance products out there for a 318 sb? Can you guys direct me to any vendors that you know of? Websites? Thx.
Outside of the zillion parts available through Summit and Jegs here's a link to Mopar Performance where you'll find everything you could possibly need for your "A" engine.
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