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Old 06-21-2013, 06:25 PM
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Will a 350 fit in the Proper place?

I am new to car building, I am still learning what is what. I have a 1947 Dodge Deluxe D24 series. It came with a 350 in it. However I dont know if the engine runs or not. Thats one issue I have. The next one is that the engine was mounted back too far and they cut out the firewall (they meaning previous owners). I would like some of the experts opinions on this issue. Will the 350 fit if i move it forward or will it mess with the steering column at all? One person looked at it and told me that the steering would need to be lowered and possibly a rack-n-pinion to be done. I have no idea what to do. Use this engine or get a different one. What are your guy's thoughts on it? Here are some pics of the engine, and the cut out firewall
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Wow...what a mess......

I think your best bet is to take off the front fenders etc and then you will be able to see better what you are up against. I cant see much, but get the feeling that someone may have slid another frame i=under this thing
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350 from what?
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Is the previous owner in the meat business by any chance? If it were me I'd go electric fan, rack n pinion and move the engine forward. Is it a column shift?
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looks like you have no room to move it up and if you did it would be maybe a few inches. not worth all that work. you may want to find a better car to start out with.
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350 from what?
Looks like a Pontiac to me, not sure though. I think I'd disassemble the whole mess and sell it off for parts.
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Old 06-22-2013, 12:10 PM
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Huh?????????

That engine set-up makes me barf!!,personally I would either use a V-6 chevy or Ford,would be all the power you need,if you need more TURBO it...
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Can't see much of what is going on there, but I think its not going to be easy.
I realize that you are wanting to work with what you have, and I can respect that, but it is a very large project that you are about to tackle.

Start by finding knowledgeable people to help you plan this out.

If you start moving the motor, you'll have to make up the distance difference in the drive shaft later.
You will need to move (cut and weld) the frame mounts for the engine and the transmission. If you need to clear the steering, you may have to push the motor up too. Then you will need to move the trans mount up as well.
You will be, essentially, starting from scratch. Place motor, trans and diff. in the chassis where you want it. Then put everything else on around the drivetrain to clear and be functional.
Its a big project for experienced builders. But, it is a great way to learn!
Good luck.
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It isn't a 350 chevy That's for sure,,, And yes you have a lot of room to go forward from what I can see... Your fan is about 6'' behind the fan shroud..From the look's of it.. You can go forward a good bit.... The steering may have to be re-ran around a few things..
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Wow, you are right, it isn't a 350 chevy! I saw the HEI and didn't look any closer. That looks like a BOP bellhousing on the trans and with that oil filter sticking out of the pass side rear of the block, I'm not sure what it is...
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Wow, you are right, it isn't a 350 chevy! I saw the HEI and didn't look any closer. That looks like a BOP bellhousing on the trans and with that oil filter sticking out of the pass side rear of the block, I'm not sure what it is...
Water pump is a dead give away...
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Will it fit?

Looks like a Pontiac to me. Water pump, distributor, BOP trans bellhousing pattern, it's definetly a Pontiac. Check the block numbers, could be a 326, 350, 389, 400, 455 or?
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Looks like a Pontiac to me. Water pump, distributor, BOP trans bellhousing pattern, it's definetly a Pontiac. Check the block numbers, could be a 326, 350, 389, 400, 455 or?
Not sure if this is relevant, but look at the size of that booster. Lots of vacuum to haul down a heavy car with a big motor? I'm assuming the booster was rescued from the same donor Pontiac hulk that donated the motor and transmission. Not sure about the intentions of the owner when the mods took place. Maybe a street-driven wheelstander??

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As the others have said, you need to start over, and this is no big deal. It's just some time. Pull the motor and trans and get them out of your way so you can see what you are working with. They may be worth some dough, get the numbers and hopefully they are out of some 70 Goat or something and you can sell it for your new motor. As far as what will fit, I don't know it does look like the stock steering is in the way and that is why the moved it back so far. You would likely change the steering to put a new motor, a Dodge of some sort?

But just get it out of there and you will be on the path to understanding the whole thing. Right now staring at this it's overwhelming. There is nothing you can do with this, just remove the motor and trans and start your education. Soon you will have a clear picture of all this and put the motor you want that will fit properly. Get a firewall or make one, change the suspension or put a motor that fits with that one, and you will be well on your way. Don't sweat it.

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Old 06-23-2013, 04:27 AM
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if it's a Pontiac. and a 455 or 421.. look up the #'s carefully super duty parts/engine are worth their weight in gold..
same thing with 400's(depending on year) to a lesser degree..
I'd say that was going to be a jump car. that was never finished..
good luck .
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