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Old 05-06-2013, 11:18 AM
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Will internet tax effect catalog houses?

This new internet tax, will it apply to online vendor who are also catalog houses? Like summit/jeggs/yearone. I had a couple big things on my wish list. Not ready to drop the coin yet...but....

They want sale tax + a convience tax+ state tax(5 states already do) .

I was told in school that they are protected by the constitution. Not sure if anybody recognizes that paper anymore.

Article 1 ,Section 6 Of the Constitution Reads .Clause 6. No Preference shall be given by any Regulation of Commerce or Revenue to the Ports of one State over those of another: nor shall Vessels bound to, or from, one State, be obliged to enter, clear or pay Duties in another.

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t's either the tax. or they will not be able to sell to that state..
and yes the state has that rite..
the internet sales are killing towns.. and states..
I think the feds should stay out of it.. and just let the businesses collect sales tax for each state.. cause they are doing comerce in the state just like a brick and mortar business..
I buy allot from online, but also saw the local shops all close because of the little difference and price and the sales tax..
it's time to make it fair ,so the local business can compete..
will it hurt the big inline outlets... not really.. as they've already all but killed off the local shops... but it'll also allow the local parts store to be more willing to stock and deal with speed parts..
cause frankly the sales tax goes through.. or your local income tax is going to go up.. and not by just a little bit either..
I'll take the sales tax.. thanks..
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I do not care about somebody else's small business. I care if I can afford something. It is overly utopian to imply otherwise. Summit and jeggs have been around a while. They are going to have tax now. Stuff is already ridiculously expensive.

If I know what I want. I should not have to pay a storefronts overhead, to get it shipped directly to me.

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I do not care about somebody else's small business. I care if I can afford something. It is overly utopian to imply otherwise. Summit and jeggs have been around a while. They are going to have tax now. Stuff is already ridiculously expensive.

It comes down to the bottom line. Times have changed. You want to make things fair? By omitting the constitution?

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does summit and jegs retail stores collect sales tax..??? yes they do
can I walk into the ohio store and not pay the sales tax, cuase HAY I DON'T LIVE IN OHIO... no I can't
does summit and jegs collect sales tax on anything sold in states where they have opperations(wherhouse or retail) yes they do
you already lost your arguement
if you are blind enough to not understand that if the states don't start collecting sales tax on e commerce. then you'll not like it when you are blindsided with state income tax hikes and other taxes to make up the losses..
the constitution says nothing about this at all.. other than the feds should not be doing it..
I have the rite to protect my business from unfair trade .. and so does every state in the union..
if you can't afford the sales tax your own state makes on sales, MOVE..
end of story...
summit wants to sell to the fine people in my state, open a retail store here.. and pay the sales tax like everyone else..

I used to buy locally untill the last one closed up.. now there are no local speed shops... that 5 bucks isn't gonna kill ya..
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[QUOTE=gearheadslife;1673396]does summit and jegs retail stores collect sales tax..??? yes they do

you already lost your arguement
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the constitution says nothing about this at all.. QUOTE]


Blind? I looked at my invoice from summit. NO Tax. This could change. If they apply taxes to internet and catalog sales.

My argument? I do not want to pay more.

Why , because the things are so expensive already.

Yes, the constitution addresses this directly. I even quoted the article.

You are a weird dude. Throwing out blind, and lost argument. This is all simple stuff and easy concepts.

I see no evidence in your post that suggests what I am saying is incorrect.
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"I do not care about somebody else's small business. I care if I can afford something."

REALLY?
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Yeah, I need to budget myself. I will not bury myself into something I cant afford.

Are you referring to the fact that I have no emotional investment in somebody else's entrepenurueal status. There is nothing wrong with that. Business is a cold game. There is no place for nostalgia, only progress. If your company has downsized you have probably witnessed the level of compassion which is standard.

Isnt that how they cured the great 1920s depression, higher taxes?

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"I do not care about somebody else's small business. I care if I can afford something."

REALLY?

it's the walmart buyer mantra..
as long as I'm ok I don't care about anyone else..
and why people can't figure out that buy'n imported gunk kills jobs..
and why unemployment is at 18-21%
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Internet tax will not solve those issues.

What saved us in the 1929+ from the depression? Legalizing alcohol, I m not sure .

What will save us now...Alcohol is already purchasable. Lets legalize coke , weed , and heroine (just on the weekends). Tax the hell out of it. With the high unemployment it could sell as a escape/coping thing. They could run a advertisement announcing they were wrong about drugs, and you should "just say yes". Redirect that DEA money to the peoples economy. Privatize sales, production of drugs. Privatize addiction treatment. You could build a economy off it. It will be the best hell you could imagine. Not the worst hell.

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it's the walmart buyer mantra..
as long as I'm ok I don't care about anyone else..
and why people can't figure out that buy'n imported gunk kills jobs..
and why unemployment is at 18-21%
Unemployment is around 7.6% in Arizona and under 7.8% average nationwide as of yesterdays news.Just read this in Sundays paper,guess who is the largest employer? Surprised?? The 2013 Arizona Republic 100 - Arizona's largest 100 companies - azcentral.com
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They changed how the unemployment statistic was equated. Now the statistic is not a measure of the individual and how long it takes him to find another job. Now the statistic measures a available position vs. how long it goes without being filled. This has nothing to do with a person returning to work from termination. No statistic can be compared to previous dates(before march) because the unemployment rate was not calculated that way. The change only makes you think there could be a economic rebound. That is how low they had to go. They had to change the way the statistic was factored to make the situation look better.

It is so bad. The system failed. People threw their lives away paying for a education for their child. And it got their kid a base level job. They only way for them to be promoted is for someone to quit or retire and nobody can afford to do that. Now they are doing it again for their kids' kids after they already know it doesn't work.

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"It is so bad. The system failed. People threw their lives away paying for a education for their child. And it got their kid a base level job. Now they are doing it again for their kids kids after they now it already didn't work. "

I agree.. Even the old way of determining unemployment was grossly inaccurate.

In this area of Michigan true unemployment was well over 20 percent. Realistically 24 percent. Has not changed very much. Yet the media keep pushing the false unemployment figures and how the job situation is getting better by leaps and bounds..Making a big deal when a company hires 10 people (mostly seasonal or relief workers). Then downplaying another that closes, laying off fifty..

My daughter has an MBA but doesn't want to leave the state. So she does labor jobs when available.. Her husband is an engineer. Re upped in the Marines twice because of civillian job situation. Now manages a Fast food joint..

So much for higher eduction.. In this socialist society..

Works great,, untill you run out of the other guys money..


Sorry,, kinda O/T but hit a nerve
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The new parents will never gain from a housing boom either. That was a big help for the last generations parents, so im told. They will fight to build any equity from their home. Depending how long they have been tenants , they are still losing as values stabilize.
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Unemployment is around 7.6% in Arizona and under 7.8% average nationwide as of yesterdays news.Just read this in Sundays paper,guess who is the largest employer? Surprised?? The 2013 Arizona Republic 100 - Arizona's largest 100 companies - azcentral.com
sorry unemployment is 18-21% everywhere...
you see the # the government count are on the rolls not those that are out of bennies, those that stopped looking for work and those that the unemployment office said sorry no..
the real # is 18-21%
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