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Will panel glue hold on brackets for my radiator

I have an aluminum radiator that came with out mounting brackets. I do not have a way to weld brackets on. I have never brazed anything. I was wondering if Panel Glue would hold brackets in place as well as a braze? I am most concerned about the heat.

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for starters aluminum can not be brazed , you can soldier or weld it . As for panel adhesive are you talking about construction adhesive or automotive ? Construction will not work , and I don't know if automotive will handle the continuous heat . I would stop at the welding supply and get the correct flux and soldier and go that route .
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Post a picture of it.Maybe we can help you come up with a idea.I came up with a good one for my 57 Chevy,It's in my album.
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I'd think you'd want to clamp it place instead of attaching brackets to it... that how the radiators in all of my newer cars are secured.
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Yeah I wouldn't secure something with that kind of heat cycles and vibration.. with glue of almost anykind. I would rather see you drill and bolt in some kind of clamps or brakets.. that or ask a friend to help you weld something up.|? Anyone near him with a welder and a little free time.. I'm sure he could front some beer to anyone who can help lol.
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what held your old radiator in place cant u use those?go to a salvage yard u should find something there
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Cant they be rivited?

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Create some alum brackets out of angle (home depot has 6061, it welds nice) and mark them with marker to where they should be on the radiator and bring them to a welder that TIG's alum. If you do all the pre-fab and prep work it should not be that expensive.
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I have clamped the fan schoud to mine:



I admit that it could have been prettier, but I'm sure it will work and if I silver paint the clamps they won't be so visible.
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Brackets

I will post a pic of it tomorrow. I have posted some pics to help you better understand my dilemma. At this point there is no radiator core support. I was thinking about using .04 aluminum sheet to separate the grill fresh air from the engine compartment, forcing all the air through the radiator and trans cooler. Build a 1/2 by 1/2" aluminum frame attached to the front fenders and the one piece nose structure. Rivet the aluminum sheet to the frame and bolt the radiator to the frame structure around the radiator. I can do all that no problem. My fear is blowing a hole in my radiator trying to weld brackets on. I have a Hobart 175 Handler and it is not designed to weld aluminum. I have checked around here to have it welded but it is $125 just to weld the brackets. That is less than two feet of bead. I want to be a welder! I guess I need to drag out the wallet and have it welded.

I will post more pics of how it looks in the radiator area now, Tomorrow

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125.00 seems a little high. I made these fan brackets and tig welded the bottom angle on this griffin radiator for about 175.00 and I did all the cutting and fitting and Tig welding too.
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All I want is four 2"x4" angle brackets welded to the side tanks. You do nice work! More pics tomorrow.

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All I want is four 2"x4" angle brackets welded to the side tanks. You do nice work! More pics tomorrow.

Bob
Quater,
You did not state who makes that radiator you have. Be careful, the Griffin cores are epoxied in, so when tigging alot on the radiator the alum. gets real hot and the heat travels fast. This could melt the epoxy if you are not careful. Again, I have seen this on griffins. When I did the above radiator I later had to weld an overflow bracket on it and I used wet rags where the epoxy and the core meet and did not have a problem.
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JEG'S Double Pass Lightweight Aluminum Racing Radiator
Double pass thermal technology gains its efficiency by first passing the fluid over the top half of the radiator and then re-routing it over the bottom half thus allowing the system to dissipate heat twice! DPRR units experience a 10-20 degree temperature drop over standard style radiators of the same size. Features a 2 row 1" inch Noculoc brazed core and CNC machine welded tanks providing a fully gasket and epoxy free construction. Also includes a machined billet filler neck, right side (passenger) 1-1/2" top inlet and right side (passenger) bottom 1-3/4" outlet.

This is what it says about the radiator. I don't know what Noculoc is but it sounds good! I deleted out some of the sales pitch so as not to offend someone.

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Panel glue will work if you get the right type. Check with your local body shop supplier. You guys really don't want to know how much panel / structural adhesive is in a Boeing plane. Vibration should not be an issue with the correct type either as the newer car and going a few years back have glued on panels. It will rip metal before it fails.
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