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Old 11-30-2012, 12:04 PM
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Windlace in a fiberglass body

I'm about to have my interior done and reading on this forum about attaching windlace by stapling to a tack strip raises a question. How is windlace attached in a fiberglass body. I don't have a built-in tack strip. Is it epoxied in? My interior panels are also fiberglass and have holes for clips. It is a Redneck body if that helps.
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You will have to create some way to attach the windlace to the body. You can epoxy a tacking strip to the body, fiberglass the tacking strip to the body, or attach it some other way, but you need a solid tacking area all around the door opening. This will be necessary for any upholstered panels that will go up to the windlace and also for the headliner.
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Thanks DanTwoLakes! It looks like epoxying a tack strip for the windlace may be the way to go. I have panels with clips for toe kick, doors, pillars, above the windshield, above the windows and door openings, and the entire back area of the sedan. The headliner is one piece fiberglass also with clips. They will need some trimming, but then I think they could just be covered with foam and fabric and snapped back in.
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I used Pli-Grip to install the head liner in my 41 Willys. There is a large epoxy seam around the door and rear window openings...far too large and hard to staple into. I tried it and the staples just flattened out.

I contact semented the windlace onto the door openings. Then I carefully fitted the Pli-Grip. I used #2 flathead sheet metal screws to hold the Pli-Grip down. I predrilled each hole and carefully countersunk it and the Pli-Grip. Very tedious. Considering it was my first headliner it came out ok.

The Willys has no straight or flat surfaces in the roof so each roof bow was custom made from premium oak. There are 7 bows...2 are permanentely glassed in around the wheel tubs and the others are held in with slicone sealer/adhesive. If you add polyester resin against the inside of the roof it may wrinkle (for a better description) the outer skin when it gets hot outside. Mine did and mine is one of the few that are heat cured at the factory. I removed this mistake but there is still some showing to the very sharp eye.

I made individual panels between each roof bow then sewed them together. Testing showed that the standard headliner fabric was not strong enough to handle staples....ripped when I pulled it tight. So I added a relatively stiff and hard fabric I found at the fabric store between each seam. I don't know what this is called in upholstery terms but it enable me to staple the headliner to each roof bow.

So far I have logged 20k + miles many with the wind blowing in open windows and high and very cold temps and the head liner is holding up fine.

I think you could grind a relief around the openings and install a tack strip. It needs to be thick enough so the staples do not bottom out against the epoxy or fiberglass. Making the relief deep enough yet so it doesn't show under the windlace might be a problem. I did look at doing this I really did not have a good tool to do it neatly and you still have to attach it very securely. My car was already painted so I had to be extra careful.
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You will still need to attach the pli grip to the car body somehow. Perhaps gluing some 1/4 plywood strips cut to fit around the rear window and around the door openings..perhaps the pli grip can be glued into place as well..

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I appreciate the information. I've spent about 4 1/2 years getting to this point - almost there. Thanks!
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Thanks for the info. Where were you 2 years ago when I did the headliner for my Willys?? haha

I had to learn this the hard way.

You do have to be very carefull with the rubber mallet or you can cut the headliner material.
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tack strips

when i did my bucket.. i cut the top edge of the body to 1/2" lip. then i bondo'd one-by (3/4") all around the upper edge and that gives u a 1/4" exposure to staple the tack strip. there is a name for what i used and for the life of me i can't remember it now.. its a "C" with wire in it. staple the bottom, tuck in interior fabric and tap down to hold it..
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Pli-grip is available from any upholstery shop. It would be easier to attach with aluminum pop rivets than with screws.
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