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Old 04-01-2007, 03:03 PM
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Windlace help

Installing the windlace on my 34 project. I am making the windlace from 1/2" diameter rubber rope and contact cementing upholstery material around it. I start with a 4" wide piece of uphostery material and spray contact adhesive along the entire length of the backside. I then lay the foam rope in the center of the material and fold the sides together and tuck it in close to the foam rope, it makes a nice looking windlace. Problem is I am having problems making smooth bends around a sharp corner around the door opening. No matter what I do it wrinkles. Any tricks you guys can offer?

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Old 04-01-2007, 05:30 PM
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What kind of material? If its vinyl, it probably just the nature of the material.
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Yes, it is vinyl. Any way to minimize it?

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re: Windlace help

You might try heating that area. Just an idea.
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Windlace problem

Generally, when I'm using vinyl for windlace on a customer's car, I spray the rubber core about 3 inches before and after the corners. That way, when I close up the vinyl, KEEPING IT IN A STRAIGHT LINE AS I GO, the vinyl is stuck to the rubber core in the corners, so it really CAN'T wrinkle. Take your time, close up about 8-10 inches at a time. Use a dull putty knife or something similar to tuck right up to the core tightly.
Let us know how you make out.
PS: Also remember, don't use a marker or Sharpie to mark the core, as it will bleed thru the vinyl eventually.
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It really depends on how tight of a corner, but you can cut relief "v" in the selvage at the corner. That may take up the bunching.

The other thing is to stretch it as you go around the bend.
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I will try glueing the foam core to the vinyl at the bend and see what happens.

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Armysniper is right on the money with his advice. This is why I invested in a 5/8" welt foot for my sewing machine. It sews windlace perfectly and takes a tenth of the time to make. If you're still having problems, I can sew you up whatever you want if you send me the core and the vinyl strips. If you're interested, sent me a private message.
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Armysniper is right on the money with his advice. This is why I invested in a 5/8" welt foot for my sewing machine. It sews windlace perfectly and takes a tenth of the time to make. If you're still having problems, I can sew you up whatever you want if you send me the core and the vinyl strips. If you're interested, sent me a private message.
Sent a PM to you.

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Vince,
DanTwoLakes is right on the money about stitching after gluing. Depending on how sharp the bend you may need to make some cuts in the part that attaches to the tack strip. Now enough to be visable but just enough to allow the material to form around the bend. Pro's use a steamer to help form the bend so the vinyl is softened somewhat to allow it to streatch more. You may be able to do this with a hair dryer being careful not to get it too hot.
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I'm talking about stitching the windlace and not gluing it at all. If you have no other way to do it than glue it, a hair dryer or even a heat gun will work to soften the vinyl, you just have to keep the heat moving and not concentrate on one area too long. To me, it doesn't make sense to glue something that is turning a corner. The sponge rod in the windlace shouldn't be attached to the fabric covering it. If the fabric is not sewn too tight to the sponge rod, the fabric and sponge rod should slip from one another, making a curve much easier to do. Stretching the windlace slightly should solve any curve problems. Let me, and everybody else, know how the sewn windlace works for you, Vince. I'll have it back to you by the end of next week at the latest.
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Let me, and everybody else, know how the sewn windlace works for you, Vince. I'll have it back to you by the end of next week at the latest.
Will do, I tried applying glue to both the material and the foam core. It made very little differance going around a corner, still wrinkled. I think you are correct about the foam core not being glued to the material.

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Vince: I got your package this morning, and sewed up your windlace. It is on it's way back to you. The reason it wrinkles up is because of the backing on the vinyl. The backing grabs ahold of the sponge rod and won't let go. You will need to make relief cuts as you go around the corners (like I made on one end of the windlace) and stretch the windlace slightly to keep the wrinkles out in the corners. Heat will also help. If you still can't make it work, send me some more, and I will sew some listing in-between the vinyl and the sponge rod to let it slip better.
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Again, thanks a bunch, I really apperciate the effort. I will let you know how it works out.

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