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Old 11-05-2010, 05:46 PM
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Window doesn't seal

My passenger window on my firebird doesn't seal against the car when I close the door. There is a big gap at the bottom, it's letting water in and it's annoying. I'm gonna take a pic later so i'll post it later.
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Old 11-05-2010, 06:33 PM
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Here's a pic. The gap is like 1/2 wide.
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Old 11-05-2010, 07:00 PM
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The photo you posted is not that clear can you take a better one and what year car is it?
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Here's some better pics, one of the bottom left corner and one of the left side of the window, both on the passenger side. It's a 78 firebird. It's difficult to take pictures of the gap but you can see it ok in the pics.
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Old 11-06-2010, 01:55 PM
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Adjusting these windows is VERY difficult if you don't have a good grasp on the functions of each adjustment. GM put so many adjustments and with such wide movement I will joke that you could just about bolt the window on upside down. Your photos aren't very good but it looks like your door is out at the top as well, that is probably the first place you need to go.

The door may need to be moved out at the bottom front so the top of the rear comes in. Or it may need to simply be moved in with the striker. I can't tell of course by the photos you posted.

But if the door is where it needs to be, it really looks like a big part of your problem is the rubber and not the glass. The rubber is a LONG way from the glass and that glass can only move so far IN at that particular spot.

Without a LOT more info and a lot more photos it is going to be very hard to help you. The problem is, you don't know what to take the photos of and it is so hard to explain. But right off the bat, how about a straight on photo looking at that rubber to glass seal. Leave the door closed and let's see a few angles of that particular area, along with the rear of the door.

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Old 11-06-2010, 02:08 PM
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First pic is of the door fitment. The 2nd pic is how the window fits at the top with the door closed. The 3rd is a pic of how much the door drops as soo as you unlatch it. The door does not close right, it sits way low when it's open. Is the weather stripping shot also?
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The first picture shows that the window looks like it needs to be "Rocked" back lowering the rear and then moving the whole thing back.

This is easy to say, wasn't it? Yep, now remove the door panel and take a look at what you have to do to do it! If you remove that panel and post a photo of the inner door we can walk you thru it but I don't remember off the top of my head make these adjustments.

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Is the door sticking out at all compared to the quarter right at the belt moulding above the door handle? You STILL could need some door alignment before the glass. But I can't tell from that photo if the door is out at all, the gap looks good but I can't tell if it is flush with the quarter.

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The door hits the bottom of the door sill (i guess that's what it's called) when you close it. When you open it it drops an inch, maybe an inch and a half.
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Needs door pins/bushings . JMO


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That sounds complicated. Would new weather stripping make the window seal better?
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That sounds complicated. Would new weather stripping make the window seal better?
Ofcourse weather stripping will help it to seal better. But your going to have to eventually do the pins/bushings, The door dropping that much is not good it's not a real big job IMHO.
http://www.google.com/#q=1978+firebi...b05746d54f919c .

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Old 11-06-2010, 04:15 PM
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Interesting that it is the passenger side with the problem, usually the driver door gets the wear first...

can you post a picture of how the driver door window seats?

just for fun..
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And here is where we started, the DOOR has to be aligned first. After you get that done worry about the window.

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The rivers door is perfect. It seals, opens, and closes like it should. One of the doors is definitely not original though. The truck and passenger door use one key, the drivers door uses a different key, and the ignition uses a different key. 3 keys total. It's dark out now, so i'll take pics of the driver door tomorrow.
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