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Old 08-15-2007, 07:43 AM
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Winters QC Diff -- How to quiet it down????

I have a new Winters quick change differential in my '32, and the 'whine' and highway speed is unbearable.

Any suggestions as to how to quiet this down. I'm driving from the Canadian border to Pleasanton Calif, tomorrow, and this is waaaay to noisy.

Thanks to all who offer suggestions.

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I have a new Winters quick change differential in my '32, and the 'whine' and highway speed is unbearable.

Any suggestions as to how to quiet this down. I'm driving from the Canadian border to Pleasanton Calif, tomorrow, and this is waaaay to noisy.

Thanks to all who offer suggestions.

Sidn
If the quick change gears are straight cut like the Halibrand rears; you will not quiet it down. The "whine" is inherent to straight cut gears.
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Not what I wanted to hear; but thanks anyway.

I guess earplugs are the order of the day.

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contact Winters direct.....may well be pinion clearance....I was told by a circle track friend that they are spiral cut gears and this link confirms his info.....

http://www.hotrodscustomstuff.com/PS-Winters.html

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Old 08-15-2007, 10:02 AM
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Thanks, 'Red65'!

I've spoken to these people, and the best they can suggest is a very high quality gear oil.

I guess the positive side is - I won't fall asleep at the wheel. But I might be deaf soon.

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80W140 "truck" class 8 lube will help some.....

http://www.lubeoilsales.com/products/fgo.htm (for different lube spec info)
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I meant talk to Winters Performance (mfg) in York PA.....717-764-9844

http://wintersperformance.com/catalo...2index1024.htm click on "start here" for the home page

I did see on their site 80W/140 with moly is ok
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the gear whine goes along with the quickchange rears...the thick oil should quiten it down quite a bit....its amazing how 1 little bottle of stp will quietdown a dohc 4.
Shane
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Thanks 'Red65' and 'Chevrolet4X4'.

I called the winters folks, and since purchased some "puple' oil that they recommended.

I've also been told, that if the gears are removed, and the surface of the teeth 'shot blast', that it will quiet them considerably.

I don't have time for the shot blast treatment before I leave, but I sure will give it a try when I get back.

Sid
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anyone remember the article that hotrod or car craft about the rear end gears that they had something done to(cant remember the name of the process)but it polished the gears real shiney(similar to the rock polishing tumblers) and actually picked up some power.Maybe someone can remember the name of the process I'm drawing a blank at the moment
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While searching for parts for my Frankland quick change, I came across an ebay ad for some gears which were called "Clinchers", or some name like that.

The gears were being advertised as not having the noise of straight cut gears, and had an angled cut to them. Can't remember the proper terminology, but I seem to remember them being called "helical" or something like that.

I was interested in purchasing a set of them, but didn't see any for sale in the gear ratios I wanted.

May be something for you to look into.

Let us know how you make out, I'd like to hear what you end up doing.

Later - Karl.
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Shane and Karl - thanks for the input.

I'm hoping that there may be a vendor at the Goodguys in Pleasanton, that may have an optional gear set, that will solve the problem.

I'll let you know what I find.

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i think the term your referring to is a helical involute gear. the ones in the axle are straight involute gears. the less angle designed into the gear the more noise it makes. the signature m22 "rock crusher" whine comes from the gear teeth being closer to straight. i doubt that there is any magic fix for this problem,going to have to find a set of helical gears to fit your application.

the advantage to the straight tooth gear is that it puts little to no lateral stress on bearings, bushing and things of that nature. with a helical gear your going to have this lateral stress. it can be pretty substantial...Ive heard of, but not seen personally, ford 9 inch pinions ripping themselves straight forward out of the carrier on a hard launch. So it might be worth making sure that the axle can withstand these forces.
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leldai73 - thanks for your input. If there is no 'fix', and the whine persists; I just have to live with it, and purchase a set of comfortable ear plugs.

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there are helical gears for a Winters quick change rear.....

http://wintersperformance.com/catalo...ars/181024.htm

why Sid does have (apparently?) straight cut racing gears.... I dunno'!

Sid,
I just noticed you posted your question in the "lounge" forum (general BS discussions).....for best answers in the future....do ask in the appropriate forum.....transmission and rear end....in this case... to get the best help

drive safe' have fun!

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