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Old 06-27-2011, 03:01 PM
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Wiring issue? Bad Battery? HELP!

So, I have a big problem, I have a 65 Ford F100 and currently I'm experiencing some technical difficulties! The other day while the radio was on (not the stock radio) I had my signal lights on and the radio would cut in and out...I'm wondering if it's my ground wire or something else. Then when i turned the ignition my dash lights were on but the truck didn't turn on...so I wiggled the key back and forth then finally it turned on BUT once I turned on my headlights the truck died. Went to get the battery check to see if it was due for a new one, and they said that it was fully charge. Going to see if my alternator is ok. Any suggestions??

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Old 06-27-2011, 03:37 PM
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Did this start immediately after you did some (any) kind of work on it? It does sound like a ground problem, I'd start by checking all the connections to ground.

AND- if you have any of those cheesy replacement battery cable terminal ends that 'clamp' on, they are the biggest pos ever foisted on the public, short of E10/87 octane gas. Even if they look and feel tight, they often draw enough current to work as a cigarette lighter. Get rid of them and use a properly terminated cable(s).
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Did this start immediately after you did some (any) kind of work on it? It does sound like a ground problem, I'd start by checking all the connections to ground.
+1 to all of that.




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AND- if you have any of those cheesy replacement battery cable terminal ends that 'clamp' on, they are the biggest pos ever foisted on the public, short of E10/87 octane gas. Even if they look and feel tight, they often draw enough current to work as a cigarette lighter. Get rid of them and use a properly terminated cable(s).
You mean this type? 'Cause I just put this one on my truck a couple of days ago after the last one I replaced cracked.
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The cheesers I'm referring to:

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The high end stereo guys have come up w/ some good terminals. Costly, though. I haven't run across a photo of the solid copper ones I like to use in a pinch- they use a collet-type affair to clamp onto the cable wire bundle. Makes a very tight, secure connection. Better than any of the lead terminals w/the thin strap (like I showed above) that immediately bends when you tighten them down on the cable wire.

When I make up a cable from scratch, I terminate w/a copper lug like shown below, then bolt that to a solid copper terminal that clamps to the battery terminal. That seems to last as well as any and has good conductivity.

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we actually did mess with the clamps and it seemed like that was the problem they do look a little worn down and to be honest i'm not sure how much work the previous owner put into it...but i'm defintally going to give that a shot and hopefully it's a simple fix! thanks!!!
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we actually did mess with the clamps and it seemed like that was the problem they do look a little worn down and to be honest i'm not sure how much work the previous owner put into it...but i'm defintally going to give that a shot and hopefully it's a simple fix! thanks!!!
Hopefully that will take care of the problem. Otherwise, do check the grounds as well as all the wiring. Any other after market electronics installed in the truck?



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That's the one I cracked, in the bottom right of the picture... Definitely like the fancy one you posted.
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that's the only thing! i thought my truck was like "cristine" that stephen king movie! everytime my boyfriend drives my truck something happens!

everyone did get me wondering that the altenator was the problem, my headlights seems a little dimmer but this is my first oldie so i would think that was the case...when everything started tweeking like the signal lights and the radio i didn't think the altenator would do all that!
plus a buddy of mine told me to turn the truck and disconnect one of the battery cables and if it stayed on it's probly the wiring since that altenator would keep it on...
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You found another weakness w/them. A POX on those damn things! lol

I'd sure like to see your cable gauge be bigger, unless you have multiples of that size working together. Soldering the joint after it's crimped will help, too.
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I'll take a pic here pretty soon so ya'll can see what i'm not seeing!!
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I'll take a pic here pretty soon so ya'll can see what i'm not seeing!!
Go for it! As you can see, pictures do help out quite a bit.



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You found another weakness w/them. A POX on those damn things! lol

I'd sure like to see your cable gauge be bigger, unless you have multiples of that size working together. Soldering the joint after it's crimped will help, too.
Lol! Yeah, the cables do seem rather small (just one for each), but they also appear to be weathered out. I think the next project is swap them out for new ones. Do you make your own or just use the regular stuff from the auto shops?
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Do you make your own or just use the regular stuff from the auto shops?
With DC cable you want there to be a lot of individual strands for the best conductivity. This will help routing it as well. I have some left over "1" gauge welding cable that I use when needed, but there's nothing wrong w/using good cables from the store.

Regardless of the brand, be sure the cable gauge is adequate for how long the run of cable is (I'm sure there are online guides for this) and that the terminals are secured good and are heavy enough, and you'll be fine.
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