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Old 11-13-2006, 03:01 PM
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Won't start after it's been running for a while

I have a 59 Chevy Apache. Everything is stock. It cranks up fine, but after driving it around town (6+miles)and I park it, going to start it is a chore. It either won't start or it takes a while to get it to turn over. I've recently replaced the distributor and coil, and spark plugs. Where else can I look?


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If the starter does not spin--or spins very slowly, you have a heat soak problem.

Check to see that you have a good ground from the batt. to the engine, to the frame,. also the starter to the block must create a good ground.

Must have a good connection from the battery pos to the solenoid.
Must have a good connection between the Sol term on the ignition switch to the Solenoid 'S' terminal as well.

This issue has been solved with the addition of a Ford solenoid mounted on an inner fender, to provide power to the starter and solonoid.

When Doc shows up he can explain this better than I.

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my 59 had the same problem.pull the starter and use some molly grease on the front and rear bushing.Also make sure your battery posts are clean.Check out the post "55 to 59 Chevy truck owners" in the hotrodders lounge.there are a bunch of us truck guys who can and will help you with your project.
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Doc here,

Pretty much everything Bryan Said is right on Electrically..check all that out..

After you replaced the Dizzy, did you time it properly, If advanced too far, it can run hotter and cause resistance to the starter from firing at the wrong time, so check that too.

You can try and divert as much cold air as you can to the starter area, to help cool it down and also add Header wrap to the right header, from the top of the pipe to as far down under the truck as you can go..Also a heat shield around the starter helps a lot..

If you find none of that works for you , you can go to the remote starter solenoid as Bryan said, it is wired like this:



That should cure the problem.

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Thanks for the help guys. That will be my weekend project. As far as setting the timing, yes. But the problem was prior to replacing the dist. When I first picked it up from my mother in law, it ran fine. I could ride all day, and have no problems.

The first time it didn't start, I replaced the points / condensor (that got it running). Second time, I replaced the Coil (didnt' work), so we traced it to the distributor.

I'll definatelly use the lube and get the header wrap and heat shield.


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Doc here,

Keep us informed of your progress!

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Docvette instead of moderator under your name you should put "King of the world" That would be more appropriate.
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Doc here,

Thanks!...But when you get to be my age.."Keeper of the Royal Chariot would be more appropriate.."

Too bad they didn't have computers before I started forgetting things..Like my address, Phone number, Name...At least that could hold all that trivial information..

Ya gotta remember..My Birth certificate was written on papyrus...By Scribes..for the royal archives..

My first Drivers license was in Hieroglyphics..with a painted portrait for a photo..

Citations for wreck-less roading of your chariot in a public square were dealt with quickly, your Citation was chiseled out on a stone slate..then the public broke it up and tossed the rocks at you..(And you NEVER asked your Road Dawgie If he wanted to get STONED with you..)

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So Shawn... did you find a fix?
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Haven't gone out and messed with it yet. It will be attempted this weekend. Also, I was talking to a buddy of mine, and he recommended a 12vlt set up. Alternator, Battery, bulbs with the stock 6vlt starter.


any idea if that would work?

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Simply changing out a weak fusiable link to the starter did it for us. A heat shield was recommended but since changing the fusible link it has not been necessary. Not one problem since.
At least this solution is cheap and fast. If it doesn't work for you, the other solutions are already offered.
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Haven't gone out and messed with it yet. It will be attempted this weekend. Also, I was talking to a buddy of mine, and he recommended a 12vlt set up. Alternator, Battery, bulbs with the stock 6vlt starter.


any idea if that would work?

~Shawn

Doc here,

Is this on your 59 apple patch?

Cuz if it is, you already have a 12 volt system, not a 6 volter..

If your talking about running a 6 volt starter..the point is mute..because you HAVE to run a 12 volt solenoid anyway..the offending part of the system..

while any DC motor WILL run at 125 percent of it's rated value, It will drastically reduce it useful life..and getting one to fit anymore is no easy chore as most aren't shelf stock items anymore..you usually need to order them..

Apply that to changing one out on your back in the boonies..and the soonest the local parts house can get one is two days...I' d take a pass..thank you..

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Doc,

Thanks for the clarity. I'm new to this, so... I do appreciate it.


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No Problem !

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Simply changing out a weak fusiable link to the starter did it for us. A heat shield was recommended but since changing the fusible link it has not been necessary. Not one problem since.
At least this solution is cheap and fast. If it doesn't work for you, the other solutions are already offered.


gonna pull the dumb card out.. What is a Fusiable link?


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