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Old 10-31-2012, 01:31 PM
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btw, isn't that avatar a gang rapist? He looks familiar. I've seen him on the news.
Can you give a link on this? E.Furgal and I have had a few rounds.

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the boss doesn't know crap and for the longest time listened to everything he was saying. He doesn't know better. He tried to replace him but he just hired the wrong guy. The guy had a drug issue and didn't pay close enough attention to detail. After that didn't work out he gave up and surrendered in a way. For the record, he's only making about 30k, which isn't much for a painter, and the reason the painter is still here is cause he knows he can't work for anyone else. No one will put up with it. He knows this and openly admitted it, but it still isn't enough to stop his attitude.

Bottom line, that's just the way it is. I conform to it for the most part and just let it slide right off my shoulders but was pissed off yesterday and wanted to vent out some anger, and who else would understand what was wrong with the message more than guys in my trade? So I vented. I feel better now. Not a biggie.

btw, isn't that avatar a gang rapist? He looks familiar. I've seen him on the news.
not a gang rapist, sorry,
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not a gang rapist, sorry,
Never said you were. Just wondering if your last avatar was you considering you wouldn't offer up any other pictures with either a date reference or a group of age progression pictures.
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Never said you were. Just wondering if your last avatar was you considering you wouldn't offer up any other pictures with either a date reference or a group of age progression pictures.
whatever.. dude give it up..
you'd think every one of color is voting for obama, they are not..
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whatever.. dude give it up..
you'd think every one of color is voting for obama, they are not..
And I didn't say that either. How about a picture of you holding today's headlines?
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I've always been upfront as to who I am. So, this is how easy it is for you to prove that you are at least who you say you are E.Furgal, post a picture that can be verified that it is you. As you can see from this 2 minute old picture, my screen shows this page. Come on E.Furgal, put me in my place with this easy exercise, otherwise I'll every right to call you a complete fraud.
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did you miss the "we are only getting one side"
again, don't really care, but if what you say is true, why the boss not replaced him?
Are you sure we're getting only one side? Did you look at the pics?

The painter's side is right there on the car.

It translates to: "I'm a big Idiot".

Anyone that leaves a message like that should be thrown out on his butt.
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Old 10-31-2012, 05:14 PM
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Dudes a jerk off. Ignore him, as much as possible.
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I don't think I've ever exchanged words with you Henry, but I've followed your posts here and there. I think you handled things well. I know some people on here want to play the Devil's advocate, but honestly from what I see the guy seems like a passive-aggressive jerk.

I have a boss kinda like that at my job. When I was conversing with a colleague about our next project at work the General Manager decided it would be a good time to say to us, "You two are never going to get anything done walking around holding each other's ****'s" He said it in a setting that was just the three of us, no cameras and the guy I was working with was brand new. It was a little out of line, but he's young and cocky. I replied to our General Manager that if he was kind enough to hold our ****'s for us, we'd at least have two free hands each to get some work done with.

He chose the time and the setting for us to speak frank, and he didn't care for my retort, obviously. The ball has been in his court ever since and you can bet that he's chosen his words a bit more wisely from then till now. I say keep calm and eventually you'll find a spot to call him out on what he does in a manner that will perhaps make him rethink his actions around the shop. If not, you vented to all of us here and it's no skin off your back at the point.
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Dudes a jerk off. Ignore him, as much as possible.

Come on, don't be shy, tell us how you really feel.

I know, spray Armorall on his pre-cleaning towels...might get the owner more than the painter though.
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Trouble is, start sabotaging someones stuff or their work and you become the jerk.
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Poncho is right.
Sabotage is a bad way to handle it.

At this point it would be best to tell the guy that you have allready been to school and know your way around quite well.
And that you find him to be an insult to your intelligence at times with his condescending speech, and that you would prefer he only talk to you if the building is on fire and you need to be told to get out.
Sometimes the direct approach works.
Then again some people really just dont get it.
Be direct without being rude or using harsh language. When it comes up in front of the boss , remind him that YOU were courteous and the other guy wasnt.
Say what you mean, just dont be mean when you say it.
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I agree Poncho 62 and I would never suggest anybody do it. That's why I said that it would get the owner more than the painter.

People like this usually are looking for a response so they can moan and complain to the owner. Childish completely childish. It seems that there is one to some degree in every shop.

I remember a shop that dealt with me years ago and they had a mid 80's full size GM that they had a color problem with. Called me and asked for me to mix a pint of base coat so they could paint the header panel. I got a phone call a few hours later, the painter (also one of the owners) was yelling and swearing at me to all ends. Now, they had their own mixing machine so I was suspicious immediately. I went down to the shop and looked at the car. I asked the painter when he first noticed that the color was off. He said "as I as I opened the can". I said OK, so when you sprayed the color was it better? He was screaming and said "look at the f*&^(ing thing, does it look better". I stayed calm and asked him if it looked better after he cleared it? He went nuts on me, screaming, yelling, swearing and this was in front of all the staff. His final comment to me was, And you call yourself a F*&(ing paint Rep/?" Now it was my turn. I calmly looked at him and said "By your own admission you knew the color didn't match when you opened the can, you said it didn't match when you sprayed it and you told me and everyone here that it didn't match when you cleared it. Why in God's name did you put the paint on in the first place? Yes I am a paint rep because I wouldn't have painted the car the wrong color in the first place, now you need to ask yourself a question, are your a painter?"

This guy was a jerk, not just to me, to everybody, but, because he was part owner of the shop nobody had the stones to stand up to him. I got a round of applause and the shop got a new painter.

Sometimes in cases like this you need to set a trap and let the guilty party fall in and hang himself. Once their exposed they rarely have the same length of teeth that they used to have.
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