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Old 11-05-2005, 03:40 PM
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would this alter my steering or suspencion geometry

i ran into a problem when i found out that because of my rim/tire combo, im not able to fit my tie rod into the spindle. the way it originally installs is obviously from the bottom, what i was thinking is if i install it from the top. i tried it and it works fine but when i let all the air out of the bags, the tie rod hits the bottom of the frame.

my questions is; can i modify the tie rod to have two 90 degree bends so it would be the same length, and clear the frame, or will that affect too many things. i drew the picture to show what i mean.
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How much is it hitting the frame..................maybe, you can notch it a little. I would take that route rather than trying to modify your tie rod ends.
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Old 11-05-2005, 03:52 PM
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that might work as long as it not cast iron you are welding, i think that was your problem on other post, welding cast
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You have already altered the steering geometry by moving the tie rod end to the top of the steering arm. If you noticed, before you moved it, when it was mounted under the steering arm, it was about even with the horizontal centerline of the ball joint. You will find the inner tie rod end is about even with the horizontal centerline of the lower control arm bushing, and on a line from the lower control arm pivot, and he upper control arm pivot.

So to move it to the top of the steering arm, the inner tie rod end has to be raised a like amount to maintain proper geometry. Otherwise you will get bump steer. Also raising the tie rod magnifies the problem when the wheels are turned to one side or the other, because it is further from the centerline of the lower control arm.
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Old 11-06-2005, 06:42 PM
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You didn't say what front end you're using, but I'm surprised you were able to get the stud into the other side properly. Balljoint and tie rod studs are tapered and the holes in the steering arms and spindles are tapered to match.

On my last project, I fabricated the steering arms and had to find a tapered reamer (1 1/2" per ft.) to accomodate the MII tie rod ends.
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Yes It will screw up your "toe" You can put it in the top and notch your frame. But I would figure out a better solution. When you air up the vehicle and let it down your toe will go all over the place.
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