The one thing that confuses me is that they are always mentioning the dollars that he puts into the cars and they also mention the man hours to build the car. In the case of the Pontiac I think they said something like $45,000 invested and over 300 man hours. But they are never clear as to whether the shop rate/ man hours are included in the $45,000. I don't think that they are, and if that is the case, he's not making much money for the labor. It was even more evident on the two previous builds.

I saw that show as well, did he not have students from a local Tech School do the work on the car? Perhaps they were not paid, as they were competing for a job at his shop.
That would bring his labour costs down!

I think his numbers reflect man hours. 300 hours at $65 and hour is $19,500 add the parts and the numbers seem ok. Not sure of his rates though. Local rod shop here is $65 an hour.

I like what he does, takes junk and turns it into a nice ride. I just wonder how the new owner feels when they see the show about their car. Kind of think it'll hurt his business in the long run as well. No one will trust what the car was originally. I wouldn't want a Satalite turned GTX for that kind of money.

One other thing, at our local car show there was a Road Runner 383 for sell that was bought earlier at BJ for $85,000 It looked average and the guy was never offered over $35,000 for it here. So some of those values are way over the top impulse buys I think. Without the proper research into real market value. BJ adds nothing to the value, this guy seem to think that it would by showing pics of it being sold there. No takers and it probably really was about a 35-40K car tops.
Almost felt sorry for him.

Barry looks like he (the shop) does good work, replacing just about the entire interior, drivetrain, upgrade the suspension, etc...BUT I don't like the way they do the bodywork.
Instead of media blasting the car to remove all paint and rust (like Overhaulin), they sand and strip the paint with paint stripper .
You just know that that's not a very thorough way to do that.
And did you notice they didn't show them working on the 1/4 panel on the Satellite/GTX. You gotta believe those Mopar 1/4s had rust holes in them.
They didn't show new 1/4s going on, so I am assuming they just patched them.
On the GTO they showed the cowl panel completely rusted and the panel under the rear glass rusted. How did they replace that?
Are those parts available? They sure didn't show how they fixed them.
I don't like the gay SMC super muscle car stripe they put on. That ruins the look for me.
The people bidding on the cars know what they are bidding on.
They know they are [clones].

Didn't they find a donor for that. Or I may be thinking of the Satellite. Non-the-less, Barry builds nice cars and I like to watch the show, BUT like a few others have said...A Clone is a Clone. Three shows I have seen now and all three were clones. The Nova SS, the GTX, and now the GTO. If i'm going to drop close to 100g's I want the real thing and not a clone even though it very well may be worth it. How would you feel if you did buy the GTO for $55,000 and had the title handed to you and you look at it and it says "1970 Pontiac Tempest"? I'd be a little pissed although most wouldn't know the difference. Most of those collectors are just going to store them away in their huge garage and use them for bragging rights. Maybe to me, it's the less money you have the more correct you want it to be.

Barry White doesn't build clones. He builds custom (in his case muscle) cars. Just like most of the people on this board. A clone is a car that represents or imitates an "original" car. His don't. He is building a hand-built car that uses an upgraded suspension and drivetrain. The body is redone to a style he wants and that his designer draws. They may be considered by the phrase BJ has coined as a "resto-mod". To me they are just really nicely built cars.

As for the sparks flying - I think that the fan may have been hitting something when the motor mounts flexed on acceleration as it didn't do it when he let off the pedal.

A stock Nova is not an SS, a Satellite is not a GTX, and a Tempest is not a GTO. Don't get me wrong...Barry builds super cars, but they are being called what they are not.

Kevin

I agree he builds nice cars but he constantly refered to the Ponitac as a GTO. If I were a Goat collector I wouldn't want that car listed as a GTO at a show! Barry White may not do that but the next owner might. It is clearly a custom but not a GTO custom.

Ok, people say the car isn't a GTO.
What requirements do you have for a GTO?
Go ahead and list them...

1. Gto bumper
2. GTO hood with scoops
3. GTO tach on hood (gay as he#*)
4. Bigger engine than Lemans
5. Bigger brakes
6. GTO badge

What else?

GTO numbers

Did they do a NOVA?? I thought 1 was a CHEVELLE, that he took from his daughter. or maybe I missed one,, the ones I saw were the chevelle , GTX and the Pontiac, and Camero, I think somewhere I saw that his shop rate was 78$ per.. but I do think the labor is included in his spend-o- meter,

they must have found a doner car after the rust popped up on the Pontiac,, the origional car was white, then after the rust was found,, the shots showed a faded gray primer car,, just a guess,, bill

I like the show, but I thought the front end was way to low. The wheels were either to small in the front or to big in the back. I like the way he does them. Some clones sell for more i think because people can drive them w/o worrying about messin up an original car. (ie the hemi cars)

All that doesn't mean crapola. If the VIN number reflects the fact that its a GTO then its a GTO. If the VIN doesn't then it's just a clone period!

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I like ANY TV show about custom cars than the normal crap that's on 'regular' TV.

BUT! This show is a cookie cutter PARTS- TIME- DEADLINES- TURMOIL IS GETTING OLD!

This show could be good, but lacks the personalities, and the excitement of personal stories of Overhaulin.

Barry comes across as a dupa head. His 'designer' lacks character and his employees are just that.

Try again next season.

Oops,My mistake Bill. It was a '69 Chevelle. I guess he did donate the proceeds to a charity. http://www.kruseinternational.com/n...v_wrecks_pr.asp