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Old 05-10-2006, 06:27 PM
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I seen nothing about the show that would be considered fraud, I watched the Satellite, Road Runner, GTX episode and it was repeatedly stated that they were building a Super Muscle Car based on a Satellite and Road Runner and that making it look like a GTX could bring more bucks.


They never said that. They said that a GTX would bring more dollars than a RoadRunner. To me that means they wanted to pass the car off as a GTX instead of passing it off as a RoadRunner because they could garner more $$$ for it from an unsuspecting buyer when in fact was nothing more than a modified Satellite. If they didn't inform the buyer that would be FRAUD and unfortunately I saw nothing in the show that indicated they informed anyone of anything. I truly believe that he must have billed the car as a clone but it would be better if the show passed on that little tid-bit of information rather than let him look like a crook.
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Tend to agree with Centerline on this one.....As I was watching that show, I thought exacrlly the same thing when the GTX idea came up.
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At first the "in your face" yelling at the camera was annoying. Just like all of the other car shows, they are trying to get the audience "excited" and their ratings up. I noticed they've toned that down a little lately.
You have to admit. Those two guys really know their stuff. That's the most informative car show on the air!


True, I agree 100% on that. At first when that program came on, I was pretty excited about it since they gave some very useful body working tips etc. but the whole getting in your face attitude kind of turned me off but like you said, they kind of toned it down a little which is a plus. I guess they are trying to appeal to the "younger crowd" now with that "Dude, aighhhhttt!" crap. What in the.. who the hell says that?? I can understand dude once in a while but holy hell, they need to calm down Oh and btw, is it just me or has trucks just become a ridiculous show since Stacey left? No one could ever replace that guy, and that became even more apparent when they brought a testosterone loaded, no balls left, gruff voiced, forget the wrench I'll tighten it with my fingers host along with another host that sounds like he's reading off of a damn card the whole time.
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Oh and btw, is it just me or has trucks just become a ridiculous show since Stacey left?

Noone could ever replace that guy, and that became even more apparent when they brought a testosterone loaded, no balls left, gruff voiced, forget the wrench I'll tighten it with my fingers host along with another host that sounds like he's reading off of a damn card the whole time.


Doc here,

Actually that's an Earpiece..(reason for the delay in repeating)

BECAUSE most those guys Can't read a TelePrompter..

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......... is it just me or has trucks just become a ridiculous show since Stacey left? No one could ever replace that guy.......


Boy, that's an understatement. Stacy was probably the best host of any of the "car" shows. It was a sad day when he left Trucks TV.
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they brought a testosterone loaded, no balls left, gruff voiced, forget the wrench I'll tighten it with my fingers host


If I was the other host, Kevin, I wouldn't be able to refraim from calling the other guy Goldberg [the wrestler] just once.
I cut them some slack: they are trying.
BTW I understand Stacey is developing another show for tv.
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when they brought a testosterone loaded, no balls left, gruff voiced, forget the wrench I'll tighten it with my fingers host along with another host that sounds like he's reading off of a damn card the whole time.


That guy needs to have that vein removed from his forehead. The first time I saw it I thought it was a wire to an earpiece. If he ever got mad to where it bulged any more...LOOK OUT

About Barry White...like I said before..he builds great cars but I'm with Centerline. He bought a Roadrunner with intentions of building it, took a Satellite that the title states Satellite, and added some GTX badges. If you look at the grille it states plain and simple, GTX. The guy that bought it thought he was buying a GTX. Would he have bought it if it was auctioned off as a Barry White built, Plymouth Satellite. I doubt it. Even Barry was talking how the totally restored '70 Roadrunner wasn't bringing the money but he had hopes his cloned car would.
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Lol Kevin, that's another erm.. "quality" I saw on our oh so beloved new steroid abuser host! If I ever saw him in real life, I wouldn't know whether to start crying from laughing or run the other way to get away from that vein before it pops! Ahhh Oh yea, that's right Doc, forgot they use an earpiece now which makes perfect sense since most of them probably can't read. Scary thought there and we're supposed to trust these guys with the suggestions they give when they probably couldn't even make it through high school? I think I died a little Centerline when I found out they were replacing Stacey. He was such a down to earth cool host that everyone could pretty much relate to. He gave you realistic projects that any person with a low budget could achieve with some time and patience unnnlike some other programs on the block ::cough, not Horsepower whatsoever, ohhh nooo not that:: Then I just died even more when they brought out the new hosts and I just thought, Goldberg's switching from Automaniac to Powerblock?? I thought they were joking with the choices to fill Stacey's shoes but like ya said scrot, at least they're um.. somewhat trying.

Butttt! To get a little back on topic after venting a little needed frustration. I noticed that too when I first watched that show a couple weeks ago when they gave you some idea of the income they received after working tirelessly on the vehicle which wasn't that much and can that really pay everyone who put nearly 400 hours into a car? Doubtful, it's most likely just a show that gives you an idea of how much effort goes into restoring a vehicle and what type of income one can make if it's done properly. Barry's definately not making enough money off of this to be a practical income idea for him, but it might be for just one person working on the car then receiving the benefits from selling it, bla bla. It's an interesting show and Barry can be a complete jack *** at times, but doesn't seem tooooo terrible.
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They never said that. They said that a GTX would bring more dollars than a RoadRunner. To me that means they wanted to pass the car off as a GTX instead of passing it off as a RoadRunner because they could garner more $$$ for it from an unsuspecting buyer when in fact was nothing more than a modified Satellite. If they didn't inform the buyer that would be FRAUD and unfortunately I saw nothing in the show that indicated they informed anyone of anything. I truly believe that he must have billed the car as a clone but it would be better if the show passed on that little tid-bit of information rather than let him look like a crook.


I guess I didn't see that they were trying to pass the car off as anything other than a modified Satallite that was going to resemble a Road Runner at first, then as a GTX when they thought the look would bring more money.
I must have been half asleep when I watched the show, I will watch for a rerun of it to see what I missed.
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Old 05-12-2006, 06:50 AM
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Here is a small excerpt from Barry's website about Wrecks to Riches. And notice that he is now calling the car a GTX.

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This 1971 Plymouth “GTX” started life as a humble Plymouth Satellite. To create this GTX Super Muscle Car, the original dented but solid Satellite body was massaged back into shape by the team at Speedshop Custom Paint.




This is also the car that the crew did not know that Barry wanted the front corner lights removed from the fender. When it came to "crunch" time all of the lenses were is bad shape so he had the guys paint the lenses. Orange paint. You pay $75g's for a car and you get a set of non working side markers, used to boot and pieced together, that is painted solid orange. Did I hear someone say "tacky"?

And although he calls all of his cars "Super Muscle Cars" he is still calling them what they are not as in the GTO.

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1970 Pontiac GTO Super Muscle Car
Sometimes building a Super Muscle Car means taking the best features from different years to make the right car. In the case of this particular car, a 1970 GTO was built from a 1971 Pontiac Lemans by Barry's Speed Shop.





You can see all of the cars here http://www.supermusclecar.com/cars.html
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Interesting that he at least is mentioning what the car started out life as. However he's still billing them as something they're not. What I can't understand is why he just doesn't fess up and call them what they are...... CLONES.
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It's no use. The trouble here is not that guys are cloning cars and not being up front about them being clones. The problem is the peckerwood that buys it and tries to pass it off as the real deal. Someone calls him on it, then rather than admit that he spent a herd of bucks on a clone, he screams FRAUD! I'd be willing to bet that there are so many disclaimers and car people getting instant stupid about the cars that they claim to be experts on that if you believed almost anything from one of these auctions you would have to want to ignore the possibility that you are looking at a clone. Most clone buyers don't care, as long as the badge is right, and it's fun, who cares. The purists will spot the clones by doing their homework.
The supposed car guy who advertises a clone as the real deal, then won't be up front when selling it or tries to conceal the fact that it's a clone is the lowest form of low. I guess that changes him from a car guy to a car salesman, the polyester suit wearing greasy haired, wearing 20lb of gold saleshole. Those guys eventually get their due.
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Thank you. Now I know where the "true blue" paint came from. I could not find a website.
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Lol Kevin, that's another erm.. "quality" I saw on our oh so beloved new steroid abuser host! If I ever saw him in real life, I wouldn't know whether to start crying from laughing or run the other way to get away from that vein before it pops! Ahhh Oh yea, that's right Doc, forgot they use an earpiece now which makes perfect sense since most of them probably can't read. Scary thought there and we're supposed to trust these guys with the suggestions they give when they probably couldn't even make it through high school? I think I died a little Centerline when I found out they were replacing Stacey. He was such a down to earth cool host that everyone could pretty much relate to. He gave you realistic projects that any person with a low budget could achieve with some time and patience unnnlike some other programs on the block ::cough, not Horsepower whatsoever, ohhh nooo not that:: Then I just died even more when they brought out the new hosts and I just thought, Goldberg's switching from Automaniac to Powerblock?? I thought they were joking with the choices to fill Stacey's shoes but like ya said scrot, at least they're um.. somewhat trying.

Butttt! To get a little back on topic after venting a little needed frustration. I noticed that too when I first watched that show a couple weeks ago when they gave you some idea of the income they received after working tirelessly on the vehicle which wasn't that much and can that really pay everyone who put nearly 400 hours into a car? Doubtful, it's most likely just a show that gives you an idea of how much effort goes into restoring a vehicle and what type of income one can make if it's done properly. Barry's definately not making enough money off of this to be a practical income idea for him, but it might be for just one person working on the car then receiving the benefits from selling it, bla bla. It's an interesting show and Barry can be a complete jack *** at times, but doesn't seem tooooo terrible.
Remember though they probably are advised on the parts and how to put them on. Why cant they just have a straight mechanic come in and do these shows with no cards or funny accents or retarted names for the other hosts
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I've only seen the 1969 Camaro episode. I thought they did a terrible job on it. First off, didn't they pay $6200 for that stripped out bondo bucket? Then they were in a rush to get it painted were still doing a lot of rust repair work after they painted it. I fell asleep after they got to $35000 and only had the body shell and motor. I'd be very angry if I bought that car and saw how poorly thought out the build was. I just hope people don't think that was the right way to do things.
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